Trigger Kick not working on fast runs

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I was recording a drummer yesterday that has some real fast Double Kick runs and my trigger would not pickup all the hits.

I'm using a DM5 and ddrum kick trigger.

For some reason it seems like it misses every other kick or so only during real fast runs.

Any recommendations on fixing this problem ?
 
You need to put a pillow in the kick. If the head is aloud to resonate, you will have to turn the sensitivity down and you won't be able to get the light hits. You might want to tune the kick way down, as long as it doesn't mess with the drummers pedal feel.
 
When my triggers miss a hit I just manually paste them in there...

But that's if most of the hits register in the first place and it's a small amount missing.

Would it take too long to manually replace your missing hits?
 
do i actually stuff the drum real tight with pillows ? and then tune it lower ?

does the position of the trigger on the drum matter either ?
 
Can I mic the drum instead.....and run that cable directly to the DM5 ?


Would that be better ?
 
You might just need to set the sensitivity lower to catch the weaker hits.
 
He isn't hitting hard enough with his left foot or he is bouncing the beater. Plug the trigger into a mixer and listen to it, you will be able to figure out the problem. It is normally the head resonating or bad technique
 
yes...i believe he is using the bouce technique. So a trigger will not pick this up huh ?
 
The trigger will pick it up, that is what the false triggering is about. You can get away with alot using triggers, but you can't rest the beater on the head. There is no substitue for good technique.

You might try micing the kick and using that to trigger the DM5, but I suspect that he isn't hitting the drum hard enough to get a distinct trigger.
 
ApolloSpeed said:
So I can run a mic directly into the DM5 ?
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No, but you could use an aux send from your mixer. I've done this before with a heavily gated kick and got very good results.
 
Like Mad said, you can't run it into the DM5. What you should do is run the trigger to your board and listen to the signal. You will be able to hear what the problem is and then go about fixing it.
 
I used to have that problem when I used my D-4,which I have used for years. I reciently got Drumagog and it is beautiful.
Ddrum triggers? Killer. I love the XLR connectors, and I love the snare trigger which has a head and rim trigger. What you might want to do is just record the clicks from the trigger then when you play back, run those tracks into the D-5. That way you are first putting all your effort into the performance and second you will put in all your effort in dialing in the D-5
 
So with Drumagog....do I still use a trigger ? or mic the drum ?
 
Thats the beauty of Drumagog you can use either. I once had a poorly recorded snare (with a mic), and with Drumagog I was easily able to replace it. Another time I was recording a live gig snd the drummer hit a tom mic and altho the sound quality was gone, there was still a signal and I replaced that signal with Drumagog
Chance
 
sounds like Drumagog is the way to go....I will check this out.

Does it work with Audition 1.5 ??
 
It is a VST plugin, If audition works with VST, you're all good.
 
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