torture time!

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Allright...I've posted this song a zillion times and have continually gotten great feedback on how crummy it was. Regardless of the songs crumminess...please take a listen and see how the mix is starting to turn out. After much reading...I'm really beginning to be a believer in the 'less is more' theory in regards to compression and effects. Any thoughts on mixing levels and overall sound will help tremendously....



korm
 
comments??

does the song take too long to download? no comments? no rating...trust me!! I need your help!!
 
im on d.s.l...and it takes about a minute...but maybe on dial up it takes about 3:00....and they think thats too long......???

ya i heard this before....the levels seem to be ALOT better....
way more guitar coming thru.....sounds good.....now when the distorted guitar parts come in...it doesnt wash completly out....you have a lot of cool production ideas goin on here....panning...and fading in and out....cool.
really great voice......too....strong.
the chord structure as in the off setting chords that play against each other seems off...to me....but might be a personal preference.....when its just the vox and acoustic it sounds great....
not knockin ya here just ...well i think u get my point...

really tho this is a TON better than the first time you posted it.....be proud.



jamal:)
 
thanks

Thanks jamal....nice to hear things are slowly coming together. And yeah...the background guitar notes are a bit weird...and don't follow any particular pattern....but then again...I'm a bit odd too!!!
 
This is pretty good. I like where you're going with your production, it's very clever. My take on the mix; when the drums/band comes in, it needs more impact, more....ass. ya know what I mean?
 
track rat!!

YES!!! I know exactly what you mean...but I'm not sure how to do it!!
Do you think the guitars need to be panned more?

I think part of the problem is that its the only song i've done without a live drum kit...and the drums lack that punch I think...but any suggestions on making the chorus...come out...would be greatly appreciated!!
 
Track Rat said:
it needs more impact, more....ass. ya know what I mean?
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you mean like wear that ugly dress that makes your butt look big?:D

enuff fooleshness.... listen to trackrat
 
First off, look to the drums, the kick and snare in particular. This is what is going to impart a lot of the drama you're trying to get. Get the level up and maybe even look for a different snare/kick sound. Once you get the balance good on these parts, let that dictate how you treat your quieter parts to get that dynamic thing going on.
 
oh god

asses are everywhere!!!!

I'll try to do something with the drums...although it was a major pain making them...but I think i'll try to do that...thanks.
 
i am no guru here but i will offer some ideas on thickening the chorus of the the song for you! duplicate the guitar track and run one hard left and the other hard right. use eq on both sides but process them differently.... ie go for crunch on the left, go for low
end on the right. i am not hearing a lot of low end here boost the bass levels a bit. somtimes i cant even tell if there is a bass in this mix? as for the drums boost the levels and add some room reverb to them. dont go nuts with the reverb though. and play with adding the same kind of reverb on the other instruments to make them have the same room feel as the drums! I really dig the vocal mix and the direction you are going in the production
of this song! these are not concrete formulas i am offering, but my attack if i was at the desk with this song! good luck and cant wait to hear your next incarnation of this mix! good luck, tim,
 
i am no guru here but i will offer some ideas on thickening the chorus of the the song for you! duplicate the guitar track and run one hard left and the other hard right. use eq on both sides but process them differently.... ie go for crunch on the left, go for low
end on the right. i am not hearing a lot of low end here boost the bass levels a bit. somtimes i cant even tell if there is a bass in this mix? as for the drums boost the levels and add some room reverb to them. dont go nuts with the reverb though. and play with adding the same kind of reverb on the other instruments to make them have the same room feel as the drums! I really dig the vocal mix and the direction you are going in the production
of this song! these are not concrete formulas i am offering, but my attack if i was at the desk with this song! good luck and cant wait to hear your next incarnation of this mix! good luck, tim,
 
What do you think of adding adding a bass to the fix list. If one is in there its very quiet. I'd try to get the kick a bit louder. The guitars are too thin. Besides re-tracking with a closer mic, I' d boost the low EQ on the electric parts, maybe pan them less.

Just my thoughts.
 
This song has come a long way since I first heard it.. I really like it.. You got some good tips from the others and I agree with everything mentioned.. sounds waaaaay better than it did.. Those evil keyboards are gone.. I hear some low stuff in there that sounds good.. definitely needs more ass like mentioned.. a bigger sound in the heavy part.. this tune has a great mood to it.. I would spend as much time as was needed on this one.. If possible, put more snare drum in there.. shes got a great voice.. I would love to work with a girl doing heavy stuff.. :eek:
 
In the name of all that's holy, MAKE THE BAD MAN STOP! Oh, the humanity.....
 
final torture

ok guys...I'm just about to post the final version of Bleed. I gave it a bit more lower end and jazzed up the chorus drums...mainly the bass drum sound and movement. I think that really gives it the dynamics you guys mentioned. This will be the last post of the song...just so I don't drive anyone too crazy. Should be up in about 5 minutes.
 
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