Tomorrow Won't Forget...

[RAMI]

Just finished this. A few things:

Is the right side guitar to loud or maybe too annoying...lol...???
I tried a different drum micing technique, do the drums sound balanced?

I have a feeling I still have a few mixes before I get this one right.
Let me know if there are any issues with this thing. Thanx

TOMORROW WON'T FORGET

 

[true-eurt]

The right guitar sounds good to me, but I like the guitars loud. It is not annoying.

The drums sound excellent.

The vocals are great too. In fact towards the end, I believe I hear you take your voice to a pitch I have not heard you do before. It really kicks when you do that.

 

[RAMI]

Thanx alot True...Yeah, I'm trying to do a little more vocally. I'm no Steve Tyler, or Steve Perry...Or anyone else named Steve...But I've sung in cover bands for a million years and used to do so much more on stage than what I've been limiting myself to in my own tunes...So I'm trying to bust out a little vocally.

I just realised I meant the LEFT guitar might be too loud, not the right. But anyway, if they sounded ok, all the better...thanx alot...

 

[Dogman]

I like the guitar tone, myself. Nothing seems unbalanced on my end. Very clean mix. Nice tune. I like when you get some of the heavier sounds in your tunes. Very good balance with the bass and drums. Great vocals. Nice feel to it. Very catchy tune. Grabs you from the start, and keeps you interested throughout. Dude, NICE.....

 

[RAMI]

Thanx Dog...Yeah, I did 2 funkier tunes previously, I wanted to rock a bit on this. But I can't claim to be naturally inclined to write heavy even though I like coming up with an Aerosmith type riff once in a while.
There is a thread floating around in one of the other forums about this different mic drum mic placement technique. I tried it for this tune and I think I really like it. Tanx buddy.

 

[SnakeDog5050]

(drunken review... sorry)

Awesome drumming man! I respect the drumming the more and more I hear you.
When your vocals first come in they sound a bit too low in the mix. Or something sounds in the way.
The guitar rocks... good rocking! Gives me a little bit of a stone temple pilots vibe with that riff and sound "Interstate love Song" is what I'm thinking of. I would say thicken up the lead by double tracking it or bring it up in the mix a tad more on the solo. Just my preference on leads...
I really like how you sing higher on the final chorus. Nice.
Overall another great song man. You just never make a bad song, nice work Keep up the rockin. Cheers from the snake and the dog of snakedog (don't ask me what that means )

 

[RAMI]

Thanx Snaker...Yes, I have to re-mix it. I actually wanted the vocals buried in the verses a bit...But I should have brought them up in the choruses. I'll have to do that. As far as doubling the solo...I don't think I can play any solos twice the samw way...This one does have a bit of a structure, so I could probably learn it (hehe), but there are parts that I'm not really sure what I did. I still find I should turn down that left side guitar, maybe it's just me. Thanx alot man.

P.S. I know that riff starts like Inter State Love Song...I tried changing it quickly though, but I realise it starts just like it. But InterState Love Song riff is a rip off from a Zep tune on "Presence", so fuck STP!!!

 

[bigbubba]

Cool song. Bada** job. You're filling the Bada$$ quota pretty fast. Pretty cool solo. I like how it's played. I'm trying to get to that point. Pretty cool chopped sound at 0:40.

Hitting the high pitches towards the end, eh? Nice ending.

Although, I would say either double the choruses or just bring them up like you've already said.

If you really want something shiny, grow your hair out, spray a couple of cans of hair spray, wear some glitter, wear holes with jeans around the holes, wear some lipstick and play the same song. 80s bubble gum rock so rocks! I kinda miss watching def leppard videos with the guys acting all girly. Of course, Poison and Dokken and some others over did it, what with the women suits and all.

Or.... You could stay with your current style of playing. I would so vote for a glam look and feel, though. I can't say I'd be interested in seeing you in a skirt, tho.

Great song, man! This is kind of new horizons for you from what I've heard of your material before.

 

[The Engineer]

I like the double-ups before the chorus comes in around 1:00 It sounds great.

 

[RAMI]

Thanx for the comments and suggestions so far guys (and girl)...I already re-did the chorus and re-mixed the song based on the comments here. Bubba, you were tight about the chorus. I sang it in a different register to make it stand out more. I knew it needed something to give it more punch. Added some more hrmonies, etc...Did a few other things that I can't even remember...I think it's getting there now. Thanx alot.

(Bubba, come on...admit it...you're dying to see me in a skirt... )

 

[bigbubba]

(Bubba, come on...admit it...you're dying to see me in a skirt... )

NOT!

If you already have a picture, tho, we wouldn't mind taking a peek.... No, not peek "that" way.





I like the new version more. The chorus definitely seems much more separate from the verses now. Which is a good thing. Also the chorus kind of sounds like Toto or something. Especially "Yesterday never remembers" parts. Which is a good thing, BTW.

 

[Bartman]

Rick Deringer-ish

Rami,

Your vocals remind me of Rick Deringer (spelling?) of Rock -N- Roll Hoochie Koo fame.

Good stuff man.

Bart

 

[RAMI]

Cool, guys...Thanx. Bubba, I'm glad the chorus stands out a bit more. Sometimes you just have to make a little change to get something to stick out more. In this case, I just what would have been the next harmony up from what I was singing before.

BARTMAN, Rick Derringer is a major compliment. Not that I was even thinking of him when I sang this, but I'm glad it has something 70's-ish about it, and I almost wore out "Derringer Live" a long time ago. Thanx buddy.

 

[Red Dog Studios]

Nice song. yeah really 70's-ish. sounds really good though. i like it. I really like the way the drums sound, (the snare ) would you tell me how you miced the kit and processed to get that sound? guitars and bass sound good too. Maybe bring up the vocal just a little bit and pan the guitars just a lil more away from each other.

zeke

 

[RAMI]

Thanx Zeke. I actually would like to have the guitars panned more, but I'm a little paranoid. I always used to pan my guits more than that, but got the comment that they're too seperated often enough to convince me that they were. So now, even though I'm going against my instincts, I keep them a little closer than my ears tell me to. Maybe I'll re-think that...hehe.

I deliberately slightly buried the vocals in this. I know they're low, but for some reason they remind me of something that I can't put my finger on, and I like that aspect of it. But you are right. Technically, they should be louder.

As far as the drum micing, I'll just refer you to the thread that explains the micing set up and even has a few pictures. It's a long thread, but well worth the read. Even after reading every post with people raving about how great it is, I was still skeptical. But not any more, I really like the results. It's supposed to be a 3 mic set up, but I still had to use a snare mic. HERE is the thread.

 

[XLR]

Best thing I've heard from you Rami. Guitars are wide, vocals are full and perfectly in tune, bass pops out, drums are articulate and big - especially the snare - it's huge and fat. But everything fits without overloading any part of the spectrum. I usually have some kind of suggestion but not this time.

Tim

 

[gbav]

Not sure if its changed but I don't find either guitar distracting. Its a personal preference im sure but the snare sounds great tone wise but slightly dull in comparison to some of the other drum sounds to me. Drumming itself is great like everything else ive heard you do. I agree with previous poster that the doubled vocals sound cool, real tight. Thought overall the vocals were real nice. Not too helpful but i really enjoyed the song man.

Take care
gary

 

[RAMI]

Tim...thanx alot...You don't know how much your opinion means to me. You don't remember, but I do, that you were the first one to comment on one of my tunes when I hesitantly stepped in here a few months ago. If I show you that tune now, compared to my latest songs, you'd understand why I was hesitant. Your comments and those of a few others here have helped me improve immensely. Thanx again.

Gary...Yes, since my first post, the song has undergone some changes, so some of my comments in the first post might not apply ony more. Thanx for the insight. I'll see if the snare needs a little more bite it. Thanx alot.

 

[David Player]

Hey Rami !!! Cool finding you here. Just found this place the other day as I'm building a new studio and looking for ideas, tips and tricks. Yet another very cool tune from ya. Your drums are sounding really good. I see your getting your recording skills down pretty tight.

Dave's new studio to be

 

[Seeker of Rock]

Dude, dig the tune but COMPRESSION!!!! You have it squished pretty good. I'm not a pro, so I can't distinguish beyond the comp, but if the drums are real, then my hats off to you. I have heard you are an awesome drummer and if this was an a recorded drum track, then you ARE the man. Dig the vocals and the melody, but would add some Quality reverb to the vocs. Nice tune, just uncompress IMHO.

Actually, I dig it so much I'm going to play it again, starting.....NOW