today!

[cemyender]

ok, so today i went and bought

a yamaha mw12 mixer - got cubase LE free with it
a sm57
mic stand/leads

hope to get jamming on it later today!

any comments? was i better off getting this yamaha than the behringer 2442fx?

 

[Carter]

I would say so!

 

[daav]

fun!
I think you will like the yamaha better than the berry.

A hint- if you get really into recording, you will have wanted to replace both of them in a fairly short time. As it stands you probably spent a lot less on a slightly better (brand of) mixer, and will be able to learn what you do and don;t like about it, so your next purchase will be a true keeper.

Did you get an interface?

Daav

 

[studiomaster]

Yamaha would rule the behringers any day...

 

[cemyender]

il be getting an interface sometime before christmas hopefully.

Not had much chance to set anything up cos ive been working this evening (im in uk!)

 

[andycerrone]

il be getting an interface sometime before christmas hopefully.

Not had much chance to set anything up cos ive been working this evening (im in uk!)

You won't be recording anything until you get that interface, fyi.

 

[cemyender]

what you mean? i plug my mic into my mixer, then my mixer into my comp via usb.

 

[andycerrone]

what you mean? i plug my mic into my mixer, then my mixer into my comp via usb.

Unlesss you can do that. Haha.

 

[iceyflame]

Hey i know this post is a little old but ive been wanting to know - will the MW12 be able to digitally put all of the channels on cubase so you can for instance be like channel 1 kick, channel 2 snare etc that you can edit later? or can it only mix down to stereo?

 

[Kevin Deschwazi]

or can it only mix down to stereo?

Yes, sorry.

 

[iceyflame]

damn it.

is this because it is usb, not firewire?

if so, whats the point in using USB then, simply low latency/noise and to bypass the PC's stock sound card?

 

[daav]

damn it.

is this because it is usb, not firewire?

if so, whats the point in using USB then, simply low latency/noise and to bypass the PC's stock sound card?

nope, I am guessing it is because it only has 2 channels of A/D conversion. If you want move channels, you want an interface with multiple analouge in, then is converts to the digital signal your comp can read and process through software.

USB and Firewire are jsut ways of moving zeros and ones from the gizmo to the motherboard (and then processor and hard drive and so on) for processing. It really isn;t much different than if you had it plugged into a PCI slot in the back, it is jsut a bit more convient. THe main comparison between USB and firewire is in rate of data transfer, not audio (or digital audio) channels.

Daav

 

[Cyanide-Depende]

IMO, depending on what your doing berrhinger can be better, like if you wanted to hit something with a 10lb sledge because your musical creativity needs a boost (ive been ther ebefore) berrhinger is the way to go, most other applications require somethign with alittle better quality. :lol:

-Cyanide

 

[Freddy]

nope, I am guessing it is because it only has 2 channels of A/D conversion. If you want move channels, you want an interface with multiple analouge in, then is converts to the digital signal your comp can read and process through software.

USB and Firewire are jsut ways of moving zeros and ones from the gizmo to the motherboard (and then processor and hard drive and so on) for processing. It really isn;t much different than if you had it plugged into a PCI slot in the back, it is jsut a bit more convient. THe main comparison between USB and firewire is in rate of data transfer, not audio (or digital audio) channels.

Daav

Well, generally, firewire devices can deliver each input on a separate channel.

USB devices cannot deliver more than a stereo input, or at least I am unaware of any that do.

 

[Kevin Deschwazi]

USB devices cannot deliver more than a stereo input, or at least I am unaware of any that do.

It's not that they can't, it's just that they're not very good at it. As I understand it, just as USB 2.0 came out and compnaies like Edirol started making USB 2.0 multi input interfaces (like this one) firewire became a lot cheaper to implement.

And as we all know firewire is much more efficient at coping with multiple channels of audio.

 

[Nick98338]

That new Edirol is USB 2.0 (really) That's the first of it's kind, that I have seen. Might be worth a look, in the near future. But, today, I don't see that model on any of the normal vendor web sites. Can't find it... can't find a price. It'll probably be available soon, but not today. So, today, it's firewire.

 

[Kevin Deschwazi]

I don't now if you're talking about the Edirol I linked to? That isn't new and it wasn't a recommendation.

Just for info this one is newer and is available to buy:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UA101/

There's also the Lexicon Omega (4 in).

Anyway, any more than two tracks of simultaneous recording and I'd recommend firewire every time.

 

[iceyflame]

OK, I've realised now that I've completely stolen the main thread-starters thread, BUT:

Can you guys recommend me some firewire mixers that are similar to the Yamha MW12 (6 mic inputs) and all of the channels have a A/D converter

 

[turtlishous]

very cool thread "hear" guys.....been looking into this abit and fire wire seems to be the way to go unless i fork out the dough and get a pci and the preamps.....much better of an option but i can't afford it right now...any sugestions(sorry i can't spell or type) on a interface after the fire wire?


i know i'm hijacking

 

[Freddy]

A lot depends on what you want to do and on how much you want to spend.

However, for those on a tight budget and who want a few audio inputs (no midi) for instruments/mics, these really are pretty good for the price.

Phonic Helix 12 Firewire

I know, I know - people knock Phonic. However, ignore most of the buttons on here and don't consider it a mixer at all. You can use it as a mixer, but that will have nothing to do with recording.

What get's passed through on firewire is each input on a separate audio channel, only affected by the gain knob. Nothing else affects it.

It has 48V phantom power and the pres are OK. Not exceptional or anything, but OK. The drivers are rock solid. It certainly works very well with Reaper.

I have one and it does the job fine. You can always add a nice pre later and plug it in if you need it.

There are plenty of other options. I would expect the Firepod to be right up there. It all depends how many inputs you need at once, and whether you need midi, and how much you want to spend.