Time to stock up on Behringer gear!

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$599 is pretty good for that DDX3216 mixer, about what it's worth. If it works, a value at that price.

I assume this means that it will be discontinued shortly.
 
Personally, I think the DI-100 at about $30 is a great buy.... a good sounding active DI box. (Yes Bear, I know your Countryman whatevers are better.... but.... ;)
 
Ed Dixon said:
My DDX32316 mixer arrived today. This is an impressive unit for not much $.

This is a mixed digital/analog mixer where presets can be saved and restored. Our target is to use this at church to automate mixer settings for different services with very differnent channel needs.

Ed
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My DDX has been dragged around England and used at live venues for 2 years now with not an hint of bother and like I said in an earlier post has had beer, Indian curries, and piss over it at some time or other.

I would think that they are about to introduce a replacement for the DDX and this is probably why they are so cheap at the moment.

Have fun Ed I do not think you will reget the purchase for one moment.

Tony
 
AussieInLondon said:
Okay, I understand the position of someone as advanced as yourself Blue Bear (Very Impressive Website BTW).

I am not an engineer, nor will I be at this point of my life. I now have a better understanding of the position people like yourself have to this brand. And that was my question.

Thanks for taking the time to answer. :)
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You got it Aussie
When I first started I got the EURORACK 802 model. There were several reasons for my purchase. I didn't know where I was going with my recording, and price became the top variable. I liked it enough, but I was also using my integrated sound card at the time.
When I decided that I was going to make a product that I wanted to sell, well I decided to get involved a little deeper and exchanged my Behringer for the Yamaha 10/2 that I got now.
What did that do for me? Well, it cleaned up about 25% of the line noise (because I still had the integrated soundcard with was adding noise to the audio).
Then I got a Delta 44 and that is good enough for me, it has gotten rid of 98% of the line noise or perhaps even more. I've test my equipment. I recorded silence and I have to turn up my speakers all the way up just to hear a very faint noise (however it could be my refrigerator, my computer or God know what).
Before my yamaha, and the Delta 44 is hard to know what's good and what's not good. You have nothing to compare it to, and it's like an entirely new language without being able to translate it to what it means.
If you are going to play around or just want it as a hobbie there is nothing wrong with having a Behringer product. Heck, you could probably turn out a pretty good Demo, if you knew what you were doing.
Like you said, many of these guys are professionals and make their living out of recording. If you are going to record yourself and hand tapes of CDs to your family Behringer is fine and your family would probably think it sounds professional.
 
Dracon said:
What happened? Did she get a puncture wound? :eek: :D
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Probably. :D

Just felt her box was a little dirtier than those I generally frolic in. :eek: :eek:
 
I've got three dual compressor/gate/limiters I use on the front end for toms snare and kick - They work really well. I've used nicer compressors, but these work just fine, mostly for gating... What's the problem?
 
Supercreep said:
I've got three dual compressor/gate/limiters I use on the front end for toms snare and kick - They work really well. I've used nicer compressors, but these work just fine, mostly for gating... What's the problem?
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If it works for you, then no problem.... your ears will tell you if/when there's a problem and you need to upgrade......
 
The only problem with bottom feeder gear is that your ears do get used to it. You have to hear the good stuff to get fed up with the cheap stuff. If you think that budget gear sounds good, your ear has been trained that way. The only way to properly judge which budget gear is actually good, or a good value, is to have used the better stuff so you have a standard to compare by.

So people that love Behringer, Alesis, and all the other low end stuff, but that's *all they have used*, then those opinions are not informed. There is good stuff to be had cheap, but you have to have heard the good stuff to really know how to pick the diamonds from the garbage.

I remember the first time I bought an expensive piece of audio gear, and put signal through it for the first time. It was a revelation. i had previously been using all the cheap stuff and thought it was great, great, great. Roland budget mixers, ART fx boxes, Alesis, all the cheap stuff. Man did my ears get opened, and I realized how my ears had become accustomed to the wrong things.

Ever since then I've been on a kick to get high end or at least pro level gear into my studio. It's expensive! But really, money buys quality and there is no disputing that. You might not like it, but that's the way it is.
 
Many of us who happen to have few problems with Behringer gear also use other gear as well. Assuming otherwise is not a safe assumption.

While I have 3 Behringer mixers, I also regularily use SoundCraft, Yamaha, and Mackie products, as well as a variety of others. They all work well.

Ed
 
SonicAlbert said:
It's expensive! But really, money buys quality and there is no disputing that. You might not like it, but that's the way it is.
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Usually, it does but not always. Some stuff is overpriced due to hype or whatever. High price does not necessarily equal good product. Low price (standard retail) will probably give you a clue is not the best.
Like you said, once you know what's good (quality wise) and not then you can find the bargain.
 
I use the monitors, a couple of DI's, a multi effects unit ( mainly the pitch shifter, the compressor on occassion, useful delay, "vocal amp", and a few other things here and there), ECM8000, and I bought the parametric EQ but have'nt really used it. I have had no problems. I will admit that I have heard reports about quality control problems and an inordinate amount of lemons from behringer and I do not doubt thier validity But I have yet to experience this myself.
 
If you ask me, the REAL problem with Behringer stuff is that 99/100 times, you can buy something better than their rip off stuff for the same price or only a little higher.
 
Dracon said:
You got it Aussie

Like you said, many of these guys are professionals and make their living out of recording. If you are going to record yourself and hand tapes of CDs to your family Behringer is fine and your family would probably think it sounds professional.
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Any advice given by Brucie Blue Bear Sound must be totally ignored as his so-called "superior recording skillz/techniques/experience & knowledge" are entirely non-existant! His so-called "Blue Bear Sound Pro Studio" is nothing more than a re-built closet with egg-shell cartons as sound diffusers. His recording equipment solely consists of a mono '71 Bell & Howell pop-up cassette recorder w. built in mic, a pair of Lafayette spkrs circa 1974 and a 2 1/2 channel mixer from Archer Electronic Kits.
Blue Bear Sound is no professional whatsoever! He doesn't even realize the fact that Behringer produces top-of-the-line pro equipment at 1/75 the price of others!!!
Ignore those who individuals that ridicule Beh gear (like that foolish & irritatingly supreme Behringer hater, MISTERQCUE) as they know nothing of it's quality,perf and value!!! I mean, what Company makes a 36 chan pro recording mixer (MX9000) with superior pre's that can be purchased brand new for $49.94 plus a turkey,salami and swiss cheese samdwich on whole wheat!!

Behringer Rules!!!

A-Salaam A-Laikum.
 
SonicAlbert said:
The only problem with bottom feeder gear is that your ears do get used to it. You have to hear the good stuff to get fed up with the cheap stuff. If you think that budget gear sounds good, your ear has been trained that way. The only way to properly judge which budget gear is actually good, or a good value, is to have used the better stuff so you have a standard to compare by.
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But how would a lot of people on this forum know that they were listening to something better?
The most important peice of gear (assuming a good source in the first place) are the end loudspeakers.
The usual candidates of Wharfedale, Alesis, Berry Truths etc. are not going to let you pick out the differences between the lesser quality pre's etc and you can forget about the subleties involved with the high-end stuff.

I accept that Mics (as another Tranducer) do vary to a massive amount and these differences are easily picked out on cheaper monitors but what are you actually monitoring, the faults on both that may or may not co-exist together?

I have always said that for a valued opinion of a piece of gear it is important that we know the credentials of the writer, just some kid who comes on and spouts off about his latest purchase when he is listening on a cheap PC thru Wall-Mart speakers is not worth a toss.

I have also seen so much crap wrote about the sound of so called "bottom feeder" equipment to know who does indeed listen and give much valued and unprejudiced opinions on this forum.

I once went into a HI-Fi shop where a guy was having a demo of 2 pairs of hi-end loudspeakers. One of the pairs had a very aggresive sound and to me sounded awful, the other had a typical BBC type sound with well controlled bass and nice detailed midrange. The guy chose the aggressive sounding speakers. What would be the point of either of us giving an opinion of eqiupment to each other?

Now George Martin's opinion I would trust!!!

Tony
 
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Like Bear said, it's not a problem for me. If I can't hear the difference, no problem. When I can, I'll trade up. It dosen't bother me if other people hear stuff I can't - The songs aren't unlistenable now, so it can only get better.
 
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