Time For Room Treatment (studio drawing inside) Help Needed!

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Im not arguing with anybody or denial, im saying for my purpose, of hip hop recording, the booth is very beneficial. I've listen to the music of those who giving advice in this thread and it's GOOD but not my type of music,


maybe im in the wrong forum.....


no offence but hip hop and other genres are VERY far apart in techniques
 
I don't think you are arguing...rather just looking at things from a single perspective...the one you are in at the moment. ;)

I agree that different styles of music will require different production techniques...but AFA how sound behaves in a room...
...well, physics and acoustic properties don't know anything about the style of music one does...so the same properties hold no matter if it's Hip Hop or Country & Western music. :)

Again...if you feel you are getting the best sound from your current setup/environment...then go with that.

I would still consider moving your mix position. If you ever get around to putting up some proper treatment in the room (which you might want to do for the sake of the mixing)…then try doing some vocals in the room VS the booth.
 
Setting up the way Miroslav is suggesting (or close) would do you a ton of good. If you can move things around to make that happen, I would.

From a treatment standpoint, you don't have a lot of space so it's going to be even more important to start in the corners and work from there. Any corners you can find will work, but vertical corners should come first. After you've done all of those you can, then treat the wall/ceiling corners.
 
RAMI said:
Read up on acoustics a bit. I guarantee once you get over being in denial, you'll wish you never built a "booth".
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OK, reading that back, I realize it totally sounds like I was directing it at you. But, I meant it as a general statement regarding most people starting out. I was even including myself in there because it took me a lot of learning before I stopped making foam and booth and bad tracking and fix-it-in-the-mix type mistakes.

I still stand by what I said about a vocal booth and foam, though.:cool:
 
BLP,

Compare your vocal tracks with Dr. Dre, or many of the 'top quality' hip-hop vocals. You may hear a resonance in the vocals done in your booth. These resonances are very hard to EQ or process out. In the past I have had folks bring me hip-hop tracks to mix with vocals recorded in small booths like this. They thought the vocals were great until I played some good tracks for them.
So, I recommend that you disassemble the booth.
Treat your room, man. Your mixes will translate better and it will inspire you to create as well. Recording your vocals in a properly treated larger room will give you more than the benefits of a great vocal recording, it will inspire 'performance'.

Cheers,
John
 
miroslav said:
I don't think you are arguing...rather just looking at things from a single perspective...the one you are in at the moment. ;)

I agree that different styles of music will require different production techniques...but AFA how sound behaves in a room...
...well, physics and acoustic properties don't know anything about the style of music one does...so the same properties hold no matter if it's Hip Hop or Country & Western music. :)

Again...if you feel you are getting the best sound from your current setup/environment...then go with that.

I would still consider moving your mix position. If you ever get around to putting up some proper treatment in the room (which you might want to do for the sake of the mixing)…then try doing some vocals in the room VS the booth.
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I'm going try moving my mix position. Also, quick question, There's attic above the garage, and the entrance is in the room. Could this be used for anything?
 
How large is the space....can you walk around up there or does it have low/angled ceilings for most of the space?
 
miroslav said:
How large is the space....can you walk around up there or does it have low/angled ceilings for most of the space?
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it's pretty large, but hot, and you can stand in walk in about half the size of my current studio room the rest is low/angled ceilings





ALSO new question, these specs on the rokits say this


High Frequency Level Control
While your Rokit Generation 2 leaves the factory voiced to demanding specs, KRK also knows that no 2 rooms "sound" the same. As such, each comes equipped with a High Frequency Level Control. This feature provides specific adjustment of high-frequency output most commonly affected by room acoustics. It's just one extra level of control that KRK gives you to ensure the most accurate mix for your particular room's acoustics.

Front-Firing Port
Take a look at competitive monitors and you'll find ports on the back of the cabinet. These rear-firing ports tend to create bass coupling with walls and corners amplifying low frequency information which will color your mix. Just like its big brothers (VXT and Expose) the G2 Rokit includes front-firing ports, which are just the right shape and taper to reduce port turbulence. You'll appreciate the clean and accurate bass performance, this approach delivers, even at high SPLs.


Technically, wouldn't that help me adjust to my untreated room while I wait to have the extra funds to treat it?
 
Weasel9992 said:
Setting up the way Miroslav is suggesting (or close) would do you a ton of good. If you can move things around to make that happen, I would.

From a treatment standpoint, you don't have a lot of space so it's going to be even more important to start in the corners and work from there. Any corners you can find will work, but vertical corners should come first. After you've done all of those you can, then treat the wall/ceiling corners.
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I got a question, There's a leather couch in one corner, another couch and bed in one corner, a huge bar in one corner ..........they aren't "trapping" the floor corners at all?
 
BLP said:
I got a question, There's a leather couch in one corner, another couch and bed in one corner, a huge bar in one corner ..........they aren't "trapping" the floor corners at all?
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Not in any meaningful way, no.
 
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