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Greg_L
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ocnor won this thread.
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ggunn
Crystal Flavolian
Recount! I demand a recount!
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Greg_L
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matttheaxe
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It's like anything else. Orange people just don't dig Mesas and visa versa.
Some guys like the darker tone. I prefer punchy and a bit brighter. I would not use an orange if I owned it, though I still want one deep inside.
The comment about good guitars vs. bad ones really is true. Try a vintage Lester in an orange along side an Epi. Turn up your amp gain half way and roll off your lesters vol knob. It should magically reduce the amps gain until its almost totally clean without losing volume. Now try that on an Epi.
You'll see what I mean. The vintage electronics are a totally different animal compared to the mini parts in a cheaper guitar.
Some guys like the darker tone. I prefer punchy and a bit brighter. I would not use an orange if I owned it, though I still want one deep inside.
The comment about good guitars vs. bad ones really is true. Try a vintage Lester in an orange along side an Epi. Turn up your amp gain half way and roll off your lesters vol knob. It should magically reduce the amps gain until its almost totally clean without losing volume. Now try that on an Epi.
You'll see what I mean. The vintage electronics are a totally different animal compared to the mini parts in a cheaper guitar.
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
The TH30 is a bit like the Tiny Terror, but with more knobs, so you can make it better. Whether or not you like Orange amps does seem to have a lot to do with your guitar. I'm probably going to get an EQ for using my Gibson. A lot of people use EQ pedals anyway, so if you've already got one, you shouldn't have any problems with an Orange.
Personally, I think this amp has a lot more punch than Mesas. Don't get me wrong, I like Mesas, too, but this Orange is the way to go for me.
Personally, I think this amp has a lot more punch than Mesas. Don't get me wrong, I like Mesas, too, but this Orange is the way to go for me.
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
How much hum is normal for a tube amp? I'm used to my little Night Train that I couldn't hear humming at all, but there's definitely an audible hum with this one, even with the guitar turned all the way down.
ocnor
Lord Of The Thighs
With the guitar volume turned off you shouldn't hear any humming if the amp was designed correctly and it is functioning properly.
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
I mean, it's not a loud hum or anything, but I feel like it should be quieter. Maybe I'll get in touch with them and see what they suggest.
ocnor
Lord Of The Thighs
Did you try plugging it into different power outlets to see if the hum goes away?
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ggunn
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I have six tube amps and they all hum a little bit. Three of them were designed by Fender.
antichef
pornk rock
with the guitar all the way down, how far up do you have to turn the amp before you can hear the hum, or is the hum independent of the amp volume? definitely try different outlets.
I suppose we're not talking about hiss - there was a "bright cap" capacitor on the controls in my Marshall, and I pulled it and the amp got a lot quieter (but it didn't affect the volume of the sounds you want to hear, that is - you get it) - with the cap in place, it would hiss when I turned the volume up even with the guitar volume all the way down. There was some low frequency component to that, but but it was definitely more SSSS than MMMMM
I suppose we're not talking about hiss - there was a "bright cap" capacitor on the controls in my Marshall, and I pulled it and the amp got a lot quieter (but it didn't affect the volume of the sounds you want to hear, that is - you get it) - with the cap in place, it would hiss when I turned the volume up even with the guitar volume all the way down. There was some low frequency component to that, but but it was definitely more SSSS than MMMMM
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
It's definitely a hum rather than a hiss. I haven't moved it to different outlets yet; it's actually plugged into a power strip, which could be part of the problem. It doesn't seem to have much to do with the volume, though it does seem a bit louder when I switch to the dirty channel.
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
Now that I've had the amp a couple months, I just wanted to add a couple things. First, the hum is definitely a result of the outlet. It completely goes away when I plug it in upstairs. Weird.
Second, the amp also makes a pretty fantastic bass amp when hooked up to a bass cab (which mine always is). Very punchy and clear. I've discovered that, overall, the amp does a really good job of letting your guitar sound like your guitar instead of making them all sound the same. I haven't found anything that sounds bad through it, even with its limited controls.
Also, I can make my guitar sound exactly like Stephen Carpenter's tone on White Pony, despite having completely different gear. Which I think is pretty cool, though many of you may not care
So buy this amp. That's my point.
Second, the amp also makes a pretty fantastic bass amp when hooked up to a bass cab (which mine always is). Very punchy and clear. I've discovered that, overall, the amp does a really good job of letting your guitar sound like your guitar instead of making them all sound the same. I haven't found anything that sounds bad through it, even with its limited controls.
Also, I can make my guitar sound exactly like Stephen Carpenter's tone on White Pony, despite having completely different gear. Which I think is pretty cool, though many of you may not care
So buy this amp. That's my point.