This is NOT my first time - please be cruel and heartless...

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Ok... maybe not cruel and heartless. My buddies over at http://www.AcidPlanet.com are all loving this mix/tune, so I figured I'd bring it in here for a different perspective.

Hope you guys totally dig it, but who knows. ;)

Here ya go:

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The tune is called Waiting for the Sun. It has some big guitars, big drums, kind of swirling backup vocals, etc. Anyway, let me know what ya think about it. I appreciate it much.

http://www.mp3.com/TheShadyNeighbor
 
Hey wonderful composition.....all the sounds were great...to me, had a beatle-esque mix which I really liked...maybe it was the drums and reversed loops that brought that to mind....there's something about the vocals that picked a nit with me, though....and I can't get a handle on why...they sat in the mix well enough, but just missed....something....I dunno....maybe a compression thing, or a normalizing thing, or something....but it didn't ruin the tune or anything, I really enjoyed it....gibs
 
Thanks Gibs... I appreciate it. Are you talking about the actual recording/sound of the vox or the performance? Just curious.

Glad you liked everything else.
 
great music!!!
I really like it, kind of like Pink Floyd, with U2...

- I think theres a little overuse Eq in the 8k to 12k range, to many sssshhhhhssss.

- interesting compressor settings

- IMHO, try more punch. (pum, pum pum, etc.)or low end.

- and.. I think your mix is distorted, the instruments alone sound good, but the hole mix is overload...
(running the song thru a mackie cr1604-vlz)


I like the fx in the vocals.
nice guitar solo.
 
KaBudokan, the recording/sound on the voice....I can't put my finger on it exactly...I can't say the effects were over processed, just maybe something closer to clean but still using 'em....if that makes any sense.....gibs:confused:
 
hey Ka,

I really like that song. Really.

I have two questions. How far were you from the mic when singing?

I wish I knew that acid was so powerful. Which tracks did you do with acid loops?

thanks
 
Hey guys, thanks for the feedback.

Gibs - The main vocals during the verse are pretty clean - just reverb. I like the background vocals there -- that's using the Waves Metaflanger "Mutron Biphaser" setting, plus a little reverse reverb. During the bridges (chorus? lol) there's another effect, and the vocals were meant to be a bit more out front, but I could see taming them down a bit.

Proveras - Glad ya like it. I definitely agree the high end is a tad harsh. I didn't apply any eq on the final mix. I think I could actually eq a little of the harshness away up there... or -

The compression on the final mix? Is that what you're talking about? I am actually thinking of redoing just the final "master." I used the Waves L1 Ultramaximizer on it. I think for some reason with this song, it is almost pushing it too hard. I may try again using the Renaissance Compressor and see if I can get a better mix that way. It may take a bit of that high end harshness off, thereby maybe cleaning up the feel that it is distorted a bit in that mix. :D

CyanJaguar - I was probably about 8-10 inches off the mic when I was singing. The vocals were recorded with an NT2 in omni mode, going into a Meek VC6.

As far as Acid - All the drums and percussion were done in there. The horn samples were all arranged in there, and there are also some very subtle strings in there in the first two verses. The backwards parts were all arranged there, the main backward part being the first note of the big guitar chord. The guitar parts were recorded in Vegas and arranged mostly in Acid.

Usually what I do is create a mix for the music in Acid and then save it as a wav and take it over to Vegas to record vocals. Mainly because by the time I get everything in Acid, my cpu stutters enough to make it impossible to record vocals or anything else.

[SF Ad voice] Acid's a great program. I really dig it, and it's changed the way I make music. [/SF Ad Voice]
 
KB,

Great job. The song was very original and well done. Sounded pretty good on my crappy system which is a pretty good lithmus(?) test. I particularly liked, and I think it happened twice in the song, there was a clean break, then boom, right back to business. That sounded way cool. You know what I'm talking about? Great job.

Ray J
 
Yeah, I dig it. I wanted a stronger snare presence, but everything else was about as good as can be expected for 128kbps. The vocals vaguely reminded me of Greg Dulli in spots.
 
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