sonusman
Banned
So my roommates band wanted a 4 song demo, with about 1-2 minutes of each song just so they could get gigs. They are a cover band.
Anyway, we did this last night. 4 songs with 2 mixes of each song. Not mastered (except fade outs...no limiting or eq). 6 hours total time including set up.
Here is more or less how it was mic'ed and mixed:
Everything ran through a Mackie preamp on this. Mixed on a Soundcraft Ghost.
Kick - Front head on (not usually the way I like to do it) with a CAD R11 right at the hole. Eq'ed out a bit of 300Hz at mix and added about 3 dB of 12kHz. Used a DOD gate and a 3630 comp. About 2-6dB of gain reduction averaged.
Snare - SM-57 about 3 inches above the head aimed towards the stick hit. Rolled out 6dB of low shelf (60Hz) and added about 2dB of high shelf (12kHz). DOD gate and 3630 comp. Not much compression though. Added a plate reverb (Quadraverb 2) with a 1.6 sec Decay.
Overheads - 4033's ran through a TL Audio Classic tube mic pre. I "enclosed" the set with these per se. The mics were placed about 5' up from the floor and on either side of the kit facing in towards the snare. What was interesting is that you would have thought that I would have needed to phase reverse one of the mics, which I tried first, but noticed in mono that I lost all the low end. Both in phase and it sounded right (this is why you should always check any stereo micing in MONO.....) Rolled out some low shelf and cut about 3 dB of 4kHz with a fairly tight bandwidth.
Bass - DI'ed using a SanAmp DI. A hair of hi eq cut on the sansamp, and used a Behringer Composer for Peak Limiting to tape. Had to boost a buttload of low end at mix. Compressed/limited with the Composer at mix about 2db of gain reduction with a long release time (over 1 second....)
Guitars - This was a Marshall JCM 800 head and an older Marshall 4X12 (didn't ask the model). Standard SM-57 on the outer edge of the cone. Just rolled out a bit of low shelf at mix and add a tad of high shelf. A hair of the drums reverb was added. One guy played a strat (left side) one a Les Paul (right side).
Vox - (my roommate, and he is no singer! he is also the bass player). 4033 through a TL Audio pre, with a Behringer inserted on the Mackie (yes, the TL was running to the Mackie pre. I did this mainly because of the way the clubs system is set up. I wanted a bit of the valve compression, but didn't want to mess with hooking the TL directly to the ADAT's, so the Mackie pre is in-line, much to my dismay with vocals....
). I had to Peak Limit quite a bit going to tape with his vocal because of his lack of control. At mix, compressed heavily and rolled off a tad of low shelf and added a bunch of high shelf. Also, a cut at about 8kHz with a moderate bandwidth at mix time. A hair of 250ms delay (way in the background, so don't listen for it...
) and a hair of the same reverb the drums had.
This isn't mastered. The band didn't want to pay extra for doing that kind of thing, so this is the mix off the board. I sent the consoles outputs to a ART MP and recorded 24/44.1 into my Lynx soundcard. Did the fade out edits, dithered using the L1 dithering dealy and saved as 16 bit.
Anyway, this was a down and dirty quicky. Be gentle on me about the production!
Ed
Anyway, we did this last night. 4 songs with 2 mixes of each song. Not mastered (except fade outs...no limiting or eq). 6 hours total time including set up.
Here is more or less how it was mic'ed and mixed:
Everything ran through a Mackie preamp on this. Mixed on a Soundcraft Ghost.
Kick - Front head on (not usually the way I like to do it) with a CAD R11 right at the hole. Eq'ed out a bit of 300Hz at mix and added about 3 dB of 12kHz. Used a DOD gate and a 3630 comp. About 2-6dB of gain reduction averaged.
Snare - SM-57 about 3 inches above the head aimed towards the stick hit. Rolled out 6dB of low shelf (60Hz) and added about 2dB of high shelf (12kHz). DOD gate and 3630 comp. Not much compression though. Added a plate reverb (Quadraverb 2) with a 1.6 sec Decay.
Overheads - 4033's ran through a TL Audio Classic tube mic pre. I "enclosed" the set with these per se. The mics were placed about 5' up from the floor and on either side of the kit facing in towards the snare. What was interesting is that you would have thought that I would have needed to phase reverse one of the mics, which I tried first, but noticed in mono that I lost all the low end. Both in phase and it sounded right (this is why you should always check any stereo micing in MONO.....) Rolled out some low shelf and cut about 3 dB of 4kHz with a fairly tight bandwidth.
Bass - DI'ed using a SanAmp DI. A hair of hi eq cut on the sansamp, and used a Behringer Composer for Peak Limiting to tape. Had to boost a buttload of low end at mix. Compressed/limited with the Composer at mix about 2db of gain reduction with a long release time (over 1 second....)
Guitars - This was a Marshall JCM 800 head and an older Marshall 4X12 (didn't ask the model). Standard SM-57 on the outer edge of the cone. Just rolled out a bit of low shelf at mix and add a tad of high shelf. A hair of the drums reverb was added. One guy played a strat (left side) one a Les Paul (right side).
Vox - (my roommate, and he is no singer! he is also the bass player). 4033 through a TL Audio pre, with a Behringer inserted on the Mackie (yes, the TL was running to the Mackie pre. I did this mainly because of the way the clubs system is set up. I wanted a bit of the valve compression, but didn't want to mess with hooking the TL directly to the ADAT's, so the Mackie pre is in-line, much to my dismay with vocals....
). I had to Peak Limit quite a bit going to tape with his vocal because of his lack of control. At mix, compressed heavily and rolled off a tad of low shelf and added a bunch of high shelf. Also, a cut at about 8kHz with a moderate bandwidth at mix time. A hair of 250ms delay (way in the background, so don't listen for it... ) and a hair of the same reverb the drums had.This isn't mastered. The band didn't want to pay extra for doing that kind of thing, so this is the mix off the board. I sent the consoles outputs to a ART MP and recorded 24/44.1 into my Lynx soundcard. Did the fade out edits, dithered using the L1 dithering dealy and saved as 16 bit.
Anyway, this was a down and dirty quicky. Be gentle on me about the production!
Ed
