The truth about Studio Projects mic's.

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So then the hampster says "Hey, that's not my nose"

I believe your question was answered about 10 posts ago. Can you let this drop now? At least until you find some other minor detail to bust Alan's balls about.

I will also gladly take all of your SP mics off of your hands, since you seem so totally dissatisfied with them. PM me with a price, then shut the fuck up about it.

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I'm just curious to know if the Studio Projects B1 is just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?

And this is the reason why I'm curious... Quote from the SP website "Many microphone manufacturers on today's market bring microphones in from Asia with their brand name on it. It's a very common thing, and they are all pretty good. Some buy all their parts from Asia and assemble them from down under somewhere. Other's go so far as to deceive you by making you think they actually make their own mics right here in the USA or other Country of origin. We won't mention names, but during our travels to many different manufacturers in Asia, we saw plenty of brands come off the assembly lines. Now not all brands do this, but many do. You need to know this. Not that the product is bad, but no one wants to be tricked!" And I remember the debate that Harvey and Alan had here a while back about the Marshall MXLV67G and the mods that Brent did to it and Alan still calling the MXLV67G an off-the-shelf mic anyways.

So is the Studio Projects B1 just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or did Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?

PS... nice job of sneaking in the adds for SP on this thread. :D
 
and the baby rabbit says " of course the carrots taste pissy - I been pissin on em all night"

DJ, I think your mind must be either denser than a black hole, or you've been sniffing so much glue that you'rs in a state of constant perseveration. You have probably taken the lead from chessrock for the empty bandwith to useful posts ratio.
 
DJL said:
Go ahead and stick your head in the sand like a big bird if you want... I don't care.
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You don't get it, do you?

If we could get a restraining order to shut you up, we would. Since the mods here don't seem to be interested in enforcing rules of reasonable dialogue, "ignore" is the only choice we have.

You are a giant idiot, DJL, you have no credibility here.

I bet a pest like you got your ass whupped a lot when you were little.

I bet you liked it. Moron.
 
It's not aginst the rules to ask questions about Studio Projects mic's... and besides, if some of you here didn't have me here to flame you would have anything to post. :)
 
DJL said:
I'm just curious to know if the Studio Projects B1 is just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?

And this is the reason why I'm curious... Quote from the SP website "Many microphone manufacturers on today's market bring microphones in from Asia with their brand name on it. It's a very common thing, and they are all pretty good. Some buy all their parts from Asia and assemble them from down under somewhere. Other's go so far as to deceive you by making you think they actually make their own mics right here in the USA or other Country of origin. We won't mention names, but during our travels to many different manufacturers in Asia, we saw plenty of brands come off the assembly lines. Now not all brands do this, but many do. You need to know this. Not that the product is bad, but no one wants to be tricked!" And I remember the debate that Harvey and Alan had here a while back about the Marshall MXLV67G and the mods that Brent did to it and Alan still calling the MXLV67G an off-the-shelf mic anyways.

So is the Studio Projects B1 just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or did Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?

PS... nice job of sneaking in the adds for SP on this thread. :D
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It seems to me that if The B1 started out as an off-the-shelf mic and then it was modded, it is no longer an off-the-shelf mic. It's most likely better or at least different than the original mic. Many of the mics being sold today are made at least from parts from 797. Most of them are a bit different from each other. It seems to me that PMI is stating that the design changes that they have made to their mics gives you another option from the off-the-shelf mics you speak of. I don't see the problem. If you prefer the 797 mic, buy that one. If you have a problem with how advertising works, you can find fault is every company in the world. The whole purpose of advertising is to make folks want to buy your product of the competitor’s. That's why forums like this are so popular. Many times you can hear what folks really think about a product based on personal experience. This tread almost seems like an attempt to get folks to not buy a product, not because you think it is not worth the money, but because you don't like the way it is advertised. That kind of goes against the advantage of a forum such as this. IMO

Blessings, Terry
 
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DJL said:
It's not aginst the rules to ask questions about Studio Projects mic's... and besides, if some of you here didn't have me here to flame you would have anything to post. :)
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Many of us only speak when we have something to contribute, rather than repeating the same information over and over again.

Stirring up shit is not a valid reason to bash any product line. You and your logic-defying posts need to take a breather or go back to Harmony Central. Or, maybe you could just post whenever you have something intelligent or on-topic to say. That, of course, would cut into your post count significantly.

My purchase offer still stands. Send me your pay pal info and you will have the money today. Put up or shut up.
 
I think 797 Audio makes some pretty good cheap budget mic's... but, that's not what this thread is about.

The thread is about... is the Studio Projects B1 is just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?
 
DJL said:
I think 797 Audio makes some pretty good cheap budget mic's... but, that's not what this thread is about.

The thread is about... is the Studio Projects B1 is just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?
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Go, Rain Man, go!

If you weren't so pathetic, I'd laugh at you.
 
DJL said:
I'm just curious to know if the Studio Projects B1 is just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? (snip)
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To my knowledge, no Chinese company has ever made any condenser mic from "scratch" (at least none worth importing). They're all “modified” copies of Neumann and AKG mics using cheaply manufactured Chinese capsules. The circuitry is so commonplace you can’t even get a patent, much less accredit any one person for its design. You may as well ask “who designed the C series mics?” since the B series mics are just shorter versions with different capsules.

Another point is this: Consider the SP C4s. Unless the SP guys are just lying through their teeth, they were designed at SP via Brent and Alan (and I’d bet Mr. Paul, himself had some input to offer), and 797 was contracted to manufacture them. Then, 797 immediately OEM’d a look-a-like version of it to Behringer to sell as the C5. It appears that 797 has no problem with this, unethical as it may seem.
 
DJL said:
Humm, well geez, that some food for thought... so who makes the B1's and CR1000's... 797 Audio or Studio Projects?
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797 makes the SP B1. Studio Projects "designs" them. Probably STudio Projects takes a standard "off-the-shelf" mic and makes some changes. Looking at the mics (as taken apart and photographed by Harvy) there are some changes that are not part of the 797 off-the-shelf variety. I don't think that the SP B1 is a total new design. I would believe that the standard mic of 797 manufacture is hot-rodded and maybe changed appearance wise.
 
DJL said:
I think 797 Audio makes some pretty good cheap budget mic's... but, that's not what this thread is about.

The thread is about... is the Studio Projects B1 is just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic that Alan just added a mod too and renamed the B1... or if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer design the B1 together from scratch? And if Alan and the unnamed 797 Audio engineer did design the B1 together from scratch... what parts(s) of the B1 did Alan design?
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If I was the owner of SP I probably would not disclose certain information because of the nature of the business. Even the discloasure of what part was modified could give another designer an insight.

My 2cents.
 
OR...we could just stop replying...let the tree fall in the woods :)
 
Thanks Flatpicker, acorec, David and you to still4given,
for the civil type post, opinions and comments. :)
 
Gidge-

Thank you for resurrecting Exhibit A.

If anyone had any questions about DJL's disorder before reading this, they don't have any AFTER reading it.

This is the thread I referred to in a different post.

Your Honor, the prosecution rests.
 
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