The Secret To Great Recordings

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jeff0633 said:
yeah yeah, step aside kid and let the intelligent folks debate. You aren't even in the same league as seen by your silly one-liners. The less you say the better chance you stand of appearing intelligent.
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I genuinely couldn't care less how I appear to a scripted retard like you. You're not even debating. You're just regurgitating the same shit in every post. Flutter echoes, phase smearing, etc. You probably don't even know what the stuff actually is or what it really sounds like. Keep copying and pasting and I'll keep laughing at you. :laughings:
 
jeff0633 said:
Direct recorded guitar sux in my book, and direct recorded bass is not nearly as good to me as a 57 on a nice bass cab in a nice room.
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These are statements I expect to hear from people who cannot fathom the simple possiblity that their views might be wrong...and everyone else that thinks differently are idiots. Also, I tend to hear these absolutes espoused by those who read but don't actually, do.

It's possible, Jeff, you might be overemphasizing the importance. I know it's impossible for you to consider this, but maybe you can give it a shot someday.

BTW, your book sux.:laughings: :laughings:
 
TeyshaBlue said:
Also, I tend to hear these absolutes espoused by those who read but don't actually, do.
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Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.

I suspect that feeble little angry jeffrey neither plays music, or knows how to record it.
 
"And not all bad rooms manifest the same 3 tired traits you've memorized off of Alan's site."

And a bad room is a bad room, unless you have some other definition of the word "bad".

"You do realize there are some excellent recordings that do not take place in rooms at all, right? How does the excellent room factor into this?"

Well now I know how much experience you have. The purpose of a good room is to simulate one way sound, in other words, outside sound without the ambient noise of being outside. A good room tries to be like the outside, a quiet outside. Now, want to ask your question again?


"It doesn't. Hence my position that a great room is not the ultimate factor."

See above.



"You're also still hopelessly hung up on the accurate = good bandwagon."

Low end smear is NEVER a good thing unless you want it as an effect. Comb filtering is never a good thing unless you want the effect. shall we go discuss this on the acoustics forum at gearslutz so the guys there can enjoy your wisdom?




"You'll either figure it out or you won't. I expect if you're gonna continue down this black/white path of absolutes, with no room whatsoever for grey, you'll dump all of your tube pre's and anything else that interferes with a great room. Absolutes are fun! You don't have think much with them"

Sorry, but this is just gibberish.
 
Man, 9 or 10 pages and you still have yet to figure out the quote function. Tsk tsk.
 
jeff0633 said:
Well now I know how much experience you have. The purpose of a good room is to simulate one way sound, in other words, outside sound without the ambient noise of being outside. A good room tries to be like the outside, a quiet outside. Now, want to ask your question again?
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Ok Sparky. I'll play. Tell me. How much experience do I have?

C'mon. Don't be shy, little fella.
 
it used to be about "capturing a performance" - in the days when recordings were always about a group of musicians in a room running through a performance of a piece of music...

But that changed somewhat with multitracking, and what followed...

For example - One guy overlayering multiple instruments, and electronic sounds, over a long period of time and many sessions, in order to create a soundscape, is not truly capturing a 'performance' is it? Multiple performances maybe.

The recording process actually becomes part of the creative process, not just a means of 'recording' the creation.

Some forms of music simply could not exist if certain recording techniques and processes had not been invented.
 
Sorry, but this again is just gibberish. How can my view that direct recorded guitar sux compared to a miced amp in a good room to me be wrong? To me (uh, and most audio recording engineers I might add) direct recording doesn't sound as good. No absolute right or wrong, but you'll find most would agree with me. You spend a lot of energy just spouting meaningless stuff that isn't pertinent to what we are discussing. very emotional you seem to be.



TeyshaBlue said:
These are statements I expect to hear from people who cannot fathom the simple possiblity that their views might be wrong...and everyone else that thinks differently are idiots. Also, I tend to hear these absolutes espoused by those who read but don't actually, do.

It's possible, Jeff, you might be overemphasizing the importance. I know it's impossible for you to consider this, but maybe you can give it a shot someday.

BTW, your book sux.:laughings: :laughings:
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jeff0633 said:
Sorry, but this again is just gibberish. How can my view that direct recorded guitar sux compared to a miced amp in a good room to me be wrong? To me (uh, and most audio recording engineers I might add) direct recording doesn't sound as good. No absolute right or wrong, but you'll find most would agree with me. You spend a lot of energy just spouting meaningless stuff that isn't pertinent to what we are discussing. very emotional you seem to be.
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lol @ emotional. :laughings: :laughings:

Depends entirely upon the guitar, amp, player, what the engineer is trying to accomplish with style of music being recorded. I think you'll find that most recording engineers, and I know a shit ton of them, will agree.
Again, there are very few absolutes in this business.
 
I can copy and paste from Ethan's site too. Here's a few of his quotes:

"Just because you believe something doesn't make it true."

"Knowing a lot of facts is not the same as being smart."

"The only thing worse than being incompetent is not knowing you are."

"The great thing about opinions is you don't have to back them up with facts."

You should study these quotes as they apply directly to you, jeffrey.
 
TeyshaBlue said:
lol @ emotional. :laughings: :laughings:

Depends entirely upon the guitar, amp, player, what the engineer is trying to accomplish with style of music being recorded. I think you'll find that most recording engineers, and I know a shit ton of them, will agree.
Again, there are very few absolutes in this business.
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I wonder why, with the million dollar rooms available to pro musicians, that producers still use drum samples? :eek:
 
TeyshaBlue said:
Or you can apologize for coming across as an arrogant prick. Your choice.
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Obviously you didn't understand that a room is an attempt to simulate a quiet outside, or you wouldn't have made the statement that recordings made outside of rooms can be good. It's obvious you don't understand that. So you are not experienced enough to know that.
 
Great logic there Gregory, lol. I love how you get to the core of things, right on topic.



Greg_L said:
I can copy and paste from Ethan's site too. Here's a few of his quotes:

"Just because you believe something doesn't make it true."

"Knowing a lot of facts is not the same as being smart."

"The only thing worse than being incompetent is not knowing you are."

"The great thing about opinions is you don't have to back them up with facts."

You should study these quotes as they apply directly to you, jeffrey.
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jeff0633 said:
Obviously you didn't understand that a room is an attempt to simulate a quiet outside, or you wouldn't have made the statement that recordings made outside of rooms can be good. It's obvious you don't understand that. So you are not experienced enough to know that.
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You would be wrong. Again.

I made the statement that some recordings (there's that worrisome qualifier "some" that you seem to struggle with) do not take place within the confines of a room at all. Some of these recordings are quite good. I guess you're not experienced enough to know that? I don't think so, actually. You seem to have some command of the tech, I think.
 
TeyshaBlue said:
lol @ emotional. :laughings: :laughings:

Depends entirely upon the guitar, amp, player, what the engineer is trying to accomplish with style of music being recorded. I think you'll find that most recording engineers, and I know a shit ton of them, will agree.
Again, there are very few absolutes in this business.
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And as i said, the vast majority would say direct guitar is not preferrable to a miced amp in a good room. We can test this theiry at your decision with a poll on gearslutz, up for it?
 
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