The Quality Of Import Guitars

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I recently bought a new obscurely-branded "GK" acoustic (made in China) for $100. It is probably the best-sounding and looking acoustic I have ever played in my life. It has a really magical tone to it. Don't ask me to explain this sort of thing.
 
heroics321 said:
My store carries the Eastman string products, and they sent us one of their guitars a few months ago to demo. That thing was a sight, I couldn't believe it. Their violins are great, but the guitar was almost over-the-top. There's no shortage of decent wood-workers in the orient.


I've got a lot of friends who make high end hand built archtops. These guys charge $15,000 and up, and some of these guys are seriously spooked by the Eastmans. Not because they match the quality of the stuff my friends are doing, but because they probably get you 90% of the way there for 10% of the cost. That's some spooky shit.

But in response to the initial question, yes, the import stuff has gotten much better recently. The explosion of CNC machines in factories has meant that you can make a more sophisticated design for less money, and with greater precision. CNC machines are fuckall expensive, BUT once you have it you can work it a lot more hours a week than even the most abused sweatshop employee. They are still lacking in the quality of woods they use, and they generally use shit electronics, but the woodworking is much more precise. I saw a new First Act guitar today which had MUCH nicer fit and finish than some of the 50 Fenders which have become the most collectable guitars in the world. Now, obviously, it will never be worth as much as a `55 Strat, and in many respects it was still a POS, but for an entry level guitar for an 8 year old (he was cute, begging his mom for money for a gutiar cable), it was hella nice.

All that being said, there are some things with some of these guitars I'm not sure about. With a CNC machine, initial QC is easy, but you still have to do a good job of choseing stable wood. I'm not sure, and in fact would be surprised if they are doing the kind of job they should be on this. If your neck is just going to warp and twist, is it really worth buying it? It is a very real issue, if you talk to most high end importers of stuff made in Asian factories, that the internal QC over there is questionable. For instance, Grizzly (an importer of workshop machinery) has their own QC team in each of the factories that make their stuff. If the Grizzly QC team rejects a piece, the factory will frequently just take the piece and sell it under a different line. Change the cowling, and you have a different tool. (That is why there actually IS a difference between two different brands of products which are made in the same factory over there). Now, I'm not saying any of this is ALWAYS an issue, nor am I saying that it is never an issue with any American manufacturers (Gibson, ah hem), but it IS something to consider and look out for.

Over all, I think this is a great time to be a guitar player. There are a lot of very reasonably priced, and well made instruments out there, and there is a proliferation of sources for really high end stuff as well. The market is ALWAYS going to be slanted for the entry level stuff, and in that reguard there is no time I can thing of which is better than right now. The quality of the import stuff is spectacular, and most of the American manufacturers are also making great stuff these days. The only thing left is to play!


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I have a Korean made Samick...I have no idea what year it is or model. It is used and there was nill info on it. I have been told, that it is most likely a custom order. She is a beauty. Abalone and Mother of pearl inlay, gold hardware. I love that axe. She plays real smooth and stays in tune. Nice tone too.

I also just purchased an LTD viper400 and so far she is a lovely lady. Plays very nice, with nice tone also. She stays in tune like a gem too!! Has Seymour Duncan double humbuckers on her. I will not part with her...or my Samick lady!!

My Spector bass is also Korean made....Geeze, is there a pattern here? :confused: She is a good bass. I would however part with it.

And I just purchased a cheapie Jap knock off of a peavy or something....I can't even remember the name...it isn't even on it. I will have to ask the dood I purchased her from. I wrote it down, but can't find it now. I had bought it with the intention to take it apart and put it back togather, because I had not done that before. It was cheap and I thought, what the heck. I still have not dissasembled her....I love the tone it has. I am going to get around to taking some axe apart....I only hope, it's not a 'Christine' of the axe world, and puts itself back togather to seek revenge!! :eek:

My Crafter acoustic is Korean made also. I love her!! I had a Samick acoustic before I got the crafter. It played nice, but the Crafter kicks the Samick's butt!

My Tradition quiltop and my Regal dobro are both American made.:D

I can honestly say, that I find the Korean made guitars just as enjoyable to play as the American made ones. I am on the prowl for a Fat Strat now. :D

I am also on the prowl for that lost chord and headcutting skill, in the sea of musical madness!!! :eek: :D :D :D :p
 
philboyd studge said:
Sorry to hear that, I wasn't thinking about getting another instrument but '62 Gibson mando is a little weak.

I think it's best to compare Eastmans with other hand builts.

ABC featured them not long ago:

www.criticalmention.com/vg/eastman/
My Gibson was the worst. It would not stay in tune and I never enjoyed playing the thing.

The Eastman is similar to what Gibson were 70 years ago.

Crisp notes with lots of woody sound.

The link takes me to a restricted site. How do I get in?
 
Agreed on the accounts of the Japanese guitars, I picked up an 1977 Austin Hatchet flying V, wow is all.
Korean guitars have gotten really great over the years, before it used to be a 3 for 10 ratio of amazing very playable guitars ratio, now it's probably 7 or 8 out of 10. I still have this 95 Epiphone Les Paul Special (TV yellow of course) that they'll have to pry out of my cold dead hand.
Chinese stuff is interesting in regards to guitars, it seems a lot like this Studio Projects debate the whole "it's killer for the money, but when my unknown rich uncle dies and leaves me his Buick Lesabre I'll but a Neumann." Replace Neumann with Gibson or whatever your high end poison. There's still magic in that old wood, those Japanese models knew that, my V is a Mahagony tone machine. To buy a new guitar however, absolutely chance that Chinese piece, I wouldn't touch a Nashville Gibson, too much money spent on giant Les Pauls down musician's row. I remember seeing that and thinking "oh, that's why they need $1700 for a bare bones Les Paul."
end rant.
 
kahuna said:
My Gibson was the worst. It would not stay in tune and I never enjoyed playing the thing.

The Eastman is similar to what Gibson were 70 years ago.

Crisp notes with lots of woody sound.

The link takes me to a restricted site. How do I get in?

I was afraid of that. Yeah mine's an A-40 (not exactly top of the line to begin with) and doesn't like staying in tune. It's blonde and looks good though. Hmmm, maybe ebay the little dear and get an Eastman.

I forgot, you need a password;

Username: eastman
Password: eastman0895

www.criticalmention.com/vg/eastman/
 
One of my favourite guitars is a CIJ Fender Jazzmaster. Here in England, the USA stuff costs so much more (nearly double in this case) that often you can't afford to be choosy about the "manufactured in...x" tag. I'm no luthier, but the quality of this guitar is right up there with anything else I've seen.
 
Dani Pace said:
Is it just me or has the quality of import guitars suddenly improved? I grew up in an era when if a guitar didn't have Gibson or Fender on the headstock then it probably wasn't worth buying. Several years back I noticed some real quality instruments arriving from Japan and Indonesia, recently it seems that China has jumped into the "higher grade instrument" market also. In particular I am refering to some of the made in China Washburn and Johnson guitars. I have a couple of friends who own music stores so I have the opportunity to play (try out) a variety of guitars. I guess I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed this (apparent) trend, or has an opposing point of view? Of course China is still producing the real "cheapo" stuff which only has the purpose of passifing a 10 year old who is screaming "I want a guitar for Christmas," but they are also turning out some pretty decent guitars of at least "serious student grade," and at a price which makes them easily affordable to the average player, especialy for students and teens. Has China finally stepped up and decided to enter the world of "real guitars?"

Yes, the quality has improved, but no, it wasn't sudden. The first Japanese and Korean knockoffs that I started seeing in the 60's were real dogs, but the quality from over there has been steadily improving ever since.
 
I've owned a lot of guitars over the years including pre-CBS Fenders, Gibson Les Paul's, etc., so I've got a pretty good basis of comparison. In the last couple years I've purchased two Korean-made guitars and have been extremely impressed. One is a PRS Santana SE which has a great feel and playability, and one of the best tremelos I've used. Of course I've totally tricked it out by now and added a Sustainiac Stealth pickup in the neck, Duncan Custom Custom in the bridge, Roland GK2A synth pickup, Planet Waves locking tuners, and custom electronics and switching. Now the thing is a monster, but was still quite nice, especially for the price, in it's original condition. The other guitar is Fender Custom Telecaster (Special Limited Edition) that I got from Musician's Friend on sale for $399 incl. tweed case. It came stock with DiMarzio humbuckers (Air Norton/Tone Zone) and coil switching, and sounds amazing. But the looks of the guitar really blew me away. It's got an arched top, contoured back, creme colored bindings on the body and neck, oversized Abalone fretmarkers, and an Aztec Gold finish. It really looks like a custom guitar. I've got a lot of guitars, but this one is fast becoming my favorite. I actually like the sound and feel of it better than my Les Paul. So I would heartily agree that import guitars have come a long way over the years.
 
true-eurt said:
I have a Korean made...I will not part with... my Samick lady!!...is also Korean made....Geeze, is there a pattern here? :confused: ...is Korean made also. I love her!! I can honestly say that I find the Korean just as enjoyable to play

Yeah, I see the pattern, you're into hot sexy Koreans... :)
 
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