rayc
retroreprobate
I'll re render the sections and try to match the levels then repost tomorrow.
ido1957
9K Gold Member
Hmmm - both good but I prefer the first one as it has less highs and blends more in the piece. The second one is good too as it cuts through the mix, maybe a little backing off of the tone knob on the guitar or the pedal.
ShanPeyton
Member
Miner. These are great dude. My ears are liking the clarity of the second clip but also the fullness of the first clip. I can tell it is the same rig but I can hear a difference in the two for sure! If anything you could use these settings for some sort of rhythm guitar doubling exercise in a project and i think it would sound fantastic!!!
It's a little hard to tell because the two tracks aren't really mixed similarly rayc! As it is now, I kind of like the first little bit best though. The second one has that little bit of tell tale Boss grit. Again though, i could just be hearing things because the levels are a little uneven.
minerman
Tonetard
Ray: I like the 1st clip the best, maybe it's because it's mixed a little better, I dunno...But myself, I like the 1st part better....
On the clips I posted yesterday, I thought there would be a much bigger difference because of the volume thing, but honestly, there isn't very much...The only thing(s) that are different between the 2 clips is the volume on the amp, & the pre-amp gain on my interface...I had to turn the pre-amp down because it would clip when turning the amp up...I think this just goes to show that most of the DSL's sound is in it's pre-amp section...Of course, I really didn't get the power tubes involved in either of these clips, but still....
Went & jammed a little with my friends for a couple hours yesterday afternoon but it didn't work out as good this time around, the drummer & bass player were pretty much hammered when I got there, but we did manage to play for a couple hours...I do have to say if they're like that next time, I probably won't go back...They were drinking some beer & smoking a little, which is fine, to each their own, but I just don't wanna be around any of that shit myself, because I've learned over the years that one thing leads to another...I know that comes with the territory, but again, I'm just not gonna go back down that road again...We're supposed to get together again tomorrow evening, so we'll see....Overall, we probably sounded as good, maybe a little better than the first time we played, so I'm not gonna give up just yet...
On the clips I posted yesterday, I thought there would be a much bigger difference because of the volume thing, but honestly, there isn't very much...The only thing(s) that are different between the 2 clips is the volume on the amp, & the pre-amp gain on my interface...I had to turn the pre-amp down because it would clip when turning the amp up...I think this just goes to show that most of the DSL's sound is in it's pre-amp section...Of course, I really didn't get the power tubes involved in either of these clips, but still....
Went & jammed a little with my friends for a couple hours yesterday afternoon but it didn't work out as good this time around, the drummer & bass player were pretty much hammered when I got there, but we did manage to play for a couple hours...I do have to say if they're like that next time, I probably won't go back...They were drinking some beer & smoking a little, which is fine, to each their own, but I just don't wanna be around any of that shit myself, because I've learned over the years that one thing leads to another...I know that comes with the territory, but again, I'm just not gonna go back down that road again...We're supposed to get together again tomorrow evening, so we'll see....Overall, we probably sounded as good, maybe a little better than the first time we played, so I'm not gonna give up just yet...
minerman
Tonetard
Just got a call from the singer/guitar player I've been jamming with...apparently the drummer got himself locked up last night sometime....DUID & possession from the little that Tony could tell me (neither of us is sure what he got busted with, but we both know for sure he's in jail...)
...I think he's been popped a couple times for DUI before, & I know he's been popped for possession a couple times (painkillers), so I'm guessing he might have to pull a little time....So just guessing, that's the end of the band/jamming until we can find another drummer...
I feel kinda sorry for him in a way, but he's had every chance in the world to get his shit together...
...I think he's been popped a couple times for DUI before, & I know he's been popped for possession a couple times (painkillers), so I'm guessing he might have to pull a little time....So just guessing, that's the end of the band/jamming until we can find another drummer...I feel kinda sorry for him in a way, but he's had every chance in the world to get his shit together...
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Greg_L
Banned
Lol. Goddamn. Sucks for him, but look at the bright side, you won't get caught up in that shit.
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RAMI
Guest
Quick question, not to de-rail the thread. (As if I'm going to de-rail a 5oo page thread. 
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I saw a pretty good deal on a Fender Princeton 650 for about $200. But the price isn't really the issue. I already have a Fender Champ X2. Is the Princeton potentially different/better enough to justify getting it?
I'm guessing that, if I'm going to get a second amp, go for something more different, like a Marshall or something, right?
)I saw a pretty good deal on a Fender Princeton 650 for about $200. But the price isn't really the issue. I already have a Fender Champ X2. Is the Princeton potentially different/better enough to justify getting it?
I'm guessing that, if I'm going to get a second amp, go for something more different, like a Marshall or something, right?
minerman
Tonetard
Exactly dude, I've been asking around to see what really happened, apparently the cops got after him sometime last night, & he tried to out-run 'em, crashed his car, had a pocket-full of pills (several different kinds, xanax, percocet, & more from what I've heard), couple needles, spoon, open container, blew like 3 times the legal limit on the breathalyzer, so it looks like sadness for him dude....I hate to see that happen to him too, we actually started rehab about the same time 8 years ago, but he didn't stick to his guns...
The big thing that sucks about the band/jam situation is there's not really many musicians around here locally, especially (good) drummers, & these guys had gave me the fever to play live again, so it's back to square again...
Gotta give the guy credit, even with all his personal problems, he's a kick-ass drummer, but I don't think he'll be playing for a while from what I've heard....unless he plays the spoons in his jail cell.....
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Greg_L
Banned
The long terms cons will be doing paradiddles on his anus.
minerman
Tonetard
Quick question, not to de-rail the thread. (As if I'm going to de-rail a 5oo page thread.
I saw a pretty good deal on a Fender Princeton 650 for about $200. But the price isn't really the issue. I already have a Fender Champ X2. Is the Princeton potentially different/better enough to justify getting it?
I'm guessing that, if I'm going to get a second amp, go for something more different, like a Marshall or something, right?
Well RAMI, I honestly don't see anything wrong getting a second Fender amp, just depends on what you want man....I bought a 1w Marshall DSL, a 100w DSL, & a 50w Ceriatone plexi clone in about a year 1/2 period...
.I really don't know much about the 2 amps you're talking about, but just guessing they're pretty similar...I will say this though, if you want a Marshall, don't be afraid to go big dude, my little 1w is ok, but is nothing compared to my 50/100 watters....And it's not just about "how fuckin' loud can I get", that loudness does make recordings sound better IMHO...
Keep us posted on what you decide man, I'm trying to figure out how long a drummer buddy of mine is gonna have to pull in jail over here....
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minerman
Tonetard
Lol...I think the world of this guy Greg (I went all through school with him, I've known him all my life), but he ain't no stranger to being locked up dude....
ShanPeyton
Member
Quick question, not to de-rail the thread. (As if I'm going to de-rail a 5oo page thread.
I saw a pretty good deal on a Fender Princeton 650 for about $200. But the price isn't really the issue. I already have a Fender Champ X2. Is the Princeton potentially different/better enough to justify getting it?
I'm guessing that, if I'm going to get a second amp, go for something more different, like a Marshall or something, right?
Personally if it were me i'd probably be inclined to go for another flavor of amp all together. But that said, The princeton i think is probably the Cadillac of Fenders new breed of Amps that offers some different amp models. And at 65W chances are its going to sound a hell of a lot better then whatever POS Fender Mustang that landed in my lap. In throry you'd be getting a bunch of different amps in that one Princeton. Assuming you choose to look at it that way. With that stuff in mind, depending on if the price is good or not it might be a great addition!
I see you are in Montreal! It might be worth a trip to a Long and McQuade to demo one before you buy this one.
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RAMI
Guest
Thanx a lot. Yeah, I'm thinking that I should go for something else entirely. The Super Champ already has about 16 different pre-set sounds. Also, the Super Champ is only 15 watts but gets plenty loud enough. I can't imagine cranking a 65 watt amp as loud as I'd need to.
There's no Long and Maquade in Montreal. But I live about a 30 second walk away from a new branch of Steve's.
ShanPeyton
Member
Thanx a lot. Yeah, I'm thinking that I should go for something else entirely. The Super Champ already has about 16 different pre-set sounds. Also, the Super Champ is only 15 watts but gets plenty loud enough. I can't imagine cranking a 65 watt amp as loud as I'd need to.
There's no Long and Maquade in Montreal. But I live about a 30 second walk away from a new branch of Steve's.
Steves!! Even better! I haven't been to one in years. L&M has pretty much bought up anything out here that might have been competition. Save for a few really hole in the wall kind of boutique places.
I think it would be better for your arsenal to not chuck all your eggs in one Fender basket if you don't mind my saying. Marshall seems to be stand out favorite amongst a lot of dudes as a trusty first or second amp. Definitely no shortage of advice in this thread HaHa! They can be had for really good prices. Right now i am messing around with an Orange. Once i get that tweaked and dialed in really nicely i am hoping my work picks up because i have my sights set on a Blackstar or a Vox. Ideally i'd love to get my hands on a Soldano but they are a little more difficult to come by at a price i can even begin to consider affordable. But that's where my ears want to be. Probably not for everyone. Chances are i'll end up with a Marshall if i keep hanging out here haHa. Anyways for all any of that is worth good luck with adding some fuel to your musical fires my friend.
As a high five towards Quebec i'll extend a high five your way in the form of this song i just heard the other day. My wife and i can't stop dancing to this and has been our "good morning time to go work now" rock out tune. gotta love a sterotype or two!! Cheers Rami.
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RAMI
Guest
Holy shit that's an awesome tune!!!! Thanx Shan. 
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RAMI
Guest
Another frickin' awesome one.
ShanPeyton
Member
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
yeppers .... besides, that 650 is a solid state amp (did you not notice that?) ..... your X2 will do the Fender thing far better and is probably about as loud.
Plus if it's primarily for recording then IMO it might be useful to have another flavor of amp available.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
this is the 650 which is a solid state thing .... no way it sounds as good as that all tube X2 IMO
rayc
retroreprobate
Sorry Chaps.
This should represent a more even set of levels.
1st section is pretty straight & 2nd has some level boost before the amp with a Boss pedal & a little bit of OD on the right side - & I mean a little bit.
Which sounds better?