The I Hate Or Like Kanye West Thread

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KANYE WEST ( How do YOu really Feel)

  • I like him his talent out shines his arrogance

    Votes: 19 33.3%

  • I like him i think his arrogance out shines talent

    Votes: 9 15.8%

  • I dislike him, his arrogance is greater than his talent

    Votes: 12 21.1%

  • I dislike him, not for his arrogance but for his lack of skill

    Votes: 3 5.3%

  • I dont care about him either way

    Votes: 14 24.6%
  • Total voters
    57
Kanye is a guilty pleasure of mine. Yeah, he's arrogant, and although I haven't listened much to the lyrics of it, the Sierra Leone song struck me as pretentious (the ending of the video and the fact that he still talks about himself in a song about tragedy), but for the most part I love his music. Dude got style.
 
He is pretty skillful with the samples.... He is also keeping sampling alive big time.... He is a personality as well....Beats are real dope...

Raticus
 
bknot1 said:
Change send me your CD in the mail..
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haha...

When it costs me almost $5000 to make a project, I don't give them out. :D

Of course, I've sold enough to break even on my costs, but it's the principal of the matter. :)
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....

I've got a lot to say, but I will try to keep my post short.

Yes. I think that Kanye is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to arrogant (as I have stated in another thread).

I know for a FACT that Kanye has the ability to go in a thousand different directions when it comes to producing songs.

He is just "riding the wave" of this one style of production (as the old saying goes... "get-in-where-you-fit-in" AND... "if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it").

I am not "riding-his-nuts", I am just saying that I have seen him grow from the beginning of his music production life, and I KNOW that Kanye can go in a myriad amount of directions when it comes to music production.

For example, I have cd's here at my house with songs that he has made that didn't use ANY samples in it. (I would upload some of the songs, but I DO NOT WANT TO BE SUED BY HIM. Allegedly, he is already suing another producer [E-SMOOVE] from here [Chicago] for 1.3 million dollars, because the producer was selling the songs on the internet).

Anyway...., I do feel that he needs to chill out on the arrogance side of things.
(This is a Dsclaimer. I am by NO means inferring, insuing, nor impling the nature of blasphemy toward the character or persona of Kanye West. This is also not an administration of ingress or egress in reference to the content of the intention of forementioned said statement).[Deleted by spinsterwun]

Sorry, guys I had to delete the statement. But... in a paraphrased nutshell, he is very big-headed, I ran into him at a function that one of my associates was executing, here in Chicago.

He blew me off BIG TIME!!!!!

I know that he is the quote/unquote "man" on the music scene. But, you don't blow off people that knew you or helped you when you were a "nobody", or should I say a "pedestrian".

Like I said before, he used to come over to our studio to learn how to "flip" songs in a different manner.

He used to come down to my club and ask the security "to go get Spin" so I could get him into the club.

In the Chicago music production scene EVERYBODY knows everybody (especially ten years ago, beacuse there wasn't that many seperate Hip-Hop producers making beats trying to break out into the national market place).

In fact, most of the Hip-Hop producers were on the south-side of Chicago. We all knew each other because we all at one time or another we had worked together. Plus, if you went out to the club, I was the one spinning (yes, there are a TON of dj's here in Chicago. However, in mid 90's there were only two MAJOR club Hip-Hop nights. There was 'The Spot' which was racially mixed, but mostly "black", and there was the 'Elbo Room" which was racially mixed but mainly "white" [I was spinning @ The Spot). And, there was only two radio stations playing hip-hop (88.5 FM on the south-side and 89.3 FM on the north-side [the shows were 3 hours shows on Wed, Fri & Sat]. I was the hip-hop dj on Friday nights on the JP Chill Show on WHPK 88.5 FM (if you wanted to get your music played, then you had to come to the station to have us play it).

So, I saying all of that, to say this.... he should have, at the least, "showed me some love" by saying "what's up, Spin" with a half of a hug. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I am just rambling and I am starting to sound like I am the one with the chip on their shoulder.

I hope that he becomes HUMBLE.

I am sure that I will add another post.


Peace...

EVSPIN1
 
For those of us who don't have any connection with the slightly bizarre 'street' rep scene - where anyone who knows more than four swear-words can call themselves an emcee - Kanye West is the only thing worth giving a damn about in hip-hop at the moment. Yeah, the Beasties went old-school and got some good politics in it, but other than that the mainstream scene is just the intensely tedious rumblings of violence, racism, depreved sexual acts and materialism glorified by morons like Fiddy, Jah, Snoop and so on. Not to mention the increasingly dull Pharrell, who becomes less engaging the more omnipresent he becomes.

So whilst some of you fans of the scene might turn your nose up at Kanye, in the same way I might look down at McFly, Nickelback or Oasis, I would point out that there's only one person who's doing anything vaguely innovative in commercial rap at the moment ... and for the first time in years it isn't Eminem.

Now go ahead and flame me!!! :):)

Nik
 
damn spin, thats some crazy shit. if anybody has a reason to have anything against kanye its you, i feel you on that.
 
I don't think I could ever forget (or even play to not know you) people who helped me step my game up.

I mean damn, I still drop the names of my mentors here and there, whether it's in a verse or in just talkin' to someone or whatever. I mean, to be so arrogant to push back the hands that lifted you up and held you when you were nothing is shallow as hell. People like that usually get what they deserve sooner or later. I think Kayne is livin' in the moment for now, but when the scene changes and the next big thing comes out and he's yesterday's news, what then?

Fieva.
 
Arrogant???... Extremely! Talented???...Extremely!
 
pcp said:
damn spin, thats some crazy shit. if anybody has a reason to have anything against kanye its you, i feel you on that.
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Naw. I'm not going to hate on him because of the way he acted toward me.

It is called karma.....

Once again, I just hope that he finds humbleness in his life.
 
Since when do u have to like rappers as people anyway??? I listen to the music for what it is, i couldnt care less what Kanye West does outside the studio. Clearly, some of you all are haters. Who cares if the guy is arrogant...he's not trying to be your friend. I know as a producer/artist that when you are trying to get your music out there people wont do a thing for you. But when you finally break through and become that celebrity all of the sudden people come out of the woodwork. Being in the eye of the public changes everything. I would be arrogant too. I also agree with the statement that the best rappers are underground. If the general public was all about lyricism and vocab that might be different. In this business you dont have to be the best rapper if you can still make music people can feel. Kanye is doing that as well as anyone. And btw, if you really think that the "sampled" songs on soundclick (and ive got one on there too) sound anywhere near as good as Kanye's you need to wake up. Everyone cant do it like him, the guy got skills. Stop hatin and step your game up
 
crunkthanamug said:
In this business you dont have to be the best rapper if you can still make music people can feel.
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If any of ya'll say Laffy Taffy I'm gonna puke while laughing.
 
On a serious note though....have any of you guys wrote some pure b.s. with a catchy beat just to see if it would get radio play?
 
noisedude said:
For those of us who don't have any connection with the slightly bizarre 'street' rep scene - where anyone who knows more than four swear-words can call themselves an emcee - Kanye West is the only thing worth giving a damn about in hip-hop at the moment. Yeah, the Beasties went old-school and got some good politics in it, but other than that the mainstream scene is just the intensely tedious rumblings of violence, racism, depreved sexual acts and materialism glorified by morons like Fiddy, Jah, Snoop and so on. Not to mention the increasingly dull Pharrell, who becomes less engaging the more omnipresent he becomes.

So whilst some of you fans of the scene might turn your nose up at Kanye, in the same way I might look down at McFly, Nickelback or Oasis, I would point out that there's only one person who's doing anything vaguely innovative in commercial rap at the moment ... and for the first time in years it isn't Eminem.

Now go ahead and flame me!!! :):)

Nik
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i second this.


and remember, he's not your friend, he's not your idol, he's a rapper. who the fuck cares if he's an ass. he has no obligation to be nice to anyone. all i want out of him is to rap, and go the heck home. asking more than that out of a rapper is foolish. as it would be for a baseball player

you don't get mad at your friends for not rapping do you?
 
Fieva said:
On a serious note though....have any of you guys wrote some pure b.s. with a catchy beat just to see if it would get radio play?
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yep -- and it did! Music today is all about what girls can shake their asses to in the club
 
crunkthanamug said:
yep -- and it did! Music today is all about what girls can shake their asses to in the club
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That's what I thought. Nothin' wrong with throwin' some bs in there just to make sure you get heard. That's preemptive advertisement.
 
Fieva said:
That's what I thought. Nothin' wrong with throwin' some bs in there just to make sure you get heard. That's preemptive advertisement.
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Damn I've been going about my album all wrong.... :o :D

I should have just made a song like "I'm sprung cause you got me"...

Has anybody heard this autotuned piece of crap? :confused:

Man that song sucks to the 10th power and made it into the countdown list! :mad:
 
ethos said:
you said hes "saving hip-hop"?!?!

people have been saying hip-hop is dying since it started.
you are aware that underground hip-hop exists right?
there are emcees that are not on MTV, but are more talented than anybody on MTV.
ive heard songs that have more talent (lyrically) in them than Kanye has shown in his carrer.
Kanye aint saving shit but his bank account.
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I'll tell you how Kanye is saving hip-hop... Its mainly through his production. His style of beatmaking is whats hot right now. That being said, if he puts a credible hip hop artist over one of his beats (e.g. common, nas, etc.) its gonna get the response and the notice it wouldnt get otherwise. thats why common is finally starting to blow up like he should after all these years. And dont even get me started on Twista... he owes a lot of his fame to kanye too. And Mr Ethos, to be technical, what do you really know about hip hop? You watch MTV! Thats the most commercial station on tv. and btw, I understood the diamonds song to be about rocafella. He did the video that way to raise awareness to the issues in sierra leone, not because he was devoting the whole song to it. And it was a hot song.
 
bigwillz24 said:
Damn I've been going about my album all wrong.... :o :D

I should have just made a song like "I'm sprung cause you got me"...

Has anybody heard this autotuned piece of crap? :confused:

Man that song sucks to the 10th power and made it into the countdown list! :mad:
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Yeah im not really a fan of the "Cher" style vocals all the way through the song, but that song is kinda catchy. The only part of the song that i absolutely cant stand is the one where he ISNT using the autotune! The beat is tight though, them 808s aint no joke. Thats getting back to what i was saying earlier, its all about what girls can jook to. This entire business is about women. They are the ones dancing and the ones buying the cds. Think about it.
 
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