muttley600
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the info came from wiki, where is it wrong? Please explain why Europeans come to the states with empty suitcases to fill up with crap. (not so much now that their own countries charge them the VAT when they go though customs upon return)
You haven't said where I was wrong.
OK, As we are outside the cave I shall do what I normally do when I read something from some one that is completely clueless and passing their long winded posts off as some kind of informed fact.
That is..
First reply... lol...
second reply...ask them to stop cos they are embarrassing themselves.
Third reply... rip them a new one.
Your first post is so full of shite it is hard to know where to begin so I will begin where you did. At the start of your post..
I lived in Europe for about a year (Germany to be specific) and it gave me some insight into how things work in another country that you can't get by just visiting. Because you have to shop at stores, you have general needs that can't be placed in a suitcase and brought with you for 7 days.
Everyone shops at stores. A spermarket is a store. Some of the most successful supermarkets in the world right now are German born and owned. They open pretty much 7 -11.
Germany as well as most of the rest of Europe has blue laws. This insures that Mom and Pop can compete with any big box retailer.
This is just idiotic and sadly too often the obvious position of Americans on anything outside their own world view and one of the reasons the rest of the world take the piss out of the American understanding of geopolitical and geographical understanding. No where near all Americans are as dumb as you but sadly it seems the ones that speak on the subject are.
Germany is one country. Europe consist of 50 countries none of which are the same often not even similar. The United states has around the same number of states are they all the same? Saying Germany is representative of Europe is like saying that New York is representative of Bolivia. Both are of course part of the Americas aren't they..?
Blue laws are an American invention not a European one. Many countries in Europe do not have blue laws. Blue laws are enforced on religious grounds. Shop opening times in Germany are enforced to protect workers, not God. Also they are no where near as strict as you outline. Nor are they here in the UK.
Blue laws are far more prevalent in the US than anywhere in Europe.
Here is how its done (and I am NOT advocating it. I hated it.)
Stores are only open from 9am until 4:30pm. Monday to Friday, and open to 6pm on Wednesday.
Stores are only open from 9am until Noon on Saturday, and once a month 9am until 4:30 on Saturday.
Not true. When I visit my cousin in Switzerland she will climb into her car and drive 20 miles to Germany to shop at the superstore and fill up with pretty much everything she needs for her and her family for the duration. She does this on a Sunday often when the kids are in bed. She does it because it is cheaper and the range of products is greater.
When I am in Germany buying timber I can shop pretty much anywhere anytime I want and at a time to suit me. I am there probably twice a year and do business with several large German suppliers. I also source in several of the neighboring countries in the region and the same applies.
One Drug store is "Open" per district/area one night a week until late. You would have to go to the local drugstore and look on the closed door for the hours of which one in your area was open late . (this was pre internet days). Then take the metro rail, walk, or drive to that drug store.
Again not true. In smaller towns they operate a Pharmacy rota simply to save every chemist from opening 24 -7. It is an agreement between Pharmacies and surgeries and is done to comply with licenses granted to sell pharmaceutical drugs and products. Similar licences are required throughout the US are they not?. Here in the UK they can apply collectively if they wish to. There is nothing stopping a pharmacy from applying on it's own to open as long as it wants to should they wish to do so... However should you need a Pharmacy you can always drop in to the nearest supermarket as most of the larger ones have them and they are open normally 8am - 11pm
Restaurants were open late, I don't remember the hours. Basically Mom and Pop only have to work about 50 hours a week and the most, then go upstairs to their apt. (downstairs is the business).
Not true. Restaurants can open 24 hours a day if they wish. They can not serve alcohol 24 hours a day. They need to apply for a license to sell alcohol and state at what times and hours they are likely to do so. There are no "dry states" in Germany. Or Europe that I know of..
Most restauranteurs and bar owners work a fuck of a lot longer than 50 hours a week. No where near all of them live on site.
There is no pull your SUV into the parking lot and load up for the week. There is no parking lot. You take the metrorail (Strassenbonn) to the stop near the market, there is no real parking lot in those areas, so owning a car to shop doesn't help. you buy your food, etc, and whatever you can carry in your hands (3 or 4 bags) back to the metro rail and back to your home is what you buy. So you have to shop about every 3 days.
Complete bollox. To categorize Germany and Europe in this way is just totally ignorant. See my responses above.
Just for the record I went out last night at 9pm to do the family shop. I drove in my car and bought all we need except for perishables for a month. I went to a supermarket. There are 5 within a 3 mile radius. I live in Europe.
If you want to build a house, business, etc. You can only build it on the same size footprint as the current/previous house. If its farmland, it remains farmland, no sprawl. None. Which made driving from village to village odd, because it was like you punch though a virtual city wall and hit farmland with nothing separating it.
Rubbish. This is not true in Germany and it is certainly not true all over Europe and definitely not true here in the UK. Just like in the US if you want to build a house or business you need to seek planning permission, submit plans, lobby local residents, comply with the terms of the permission and regs. These are laid down both nationally and locally. I assume it is similar in the USA, at least I hope it is for the sake of those that live near or in those buildings or work in them.
So this is how the government keeps a Walmart out of an area.
Walmart can't build a 130,000 square foot building without building on the site of a former 130K SQFT. Building.
Walmart has to close at 4:30 like everybody else., etc.
Rubbish. Germany is one of 4 countries worldwide that does not have a Walmart presence. Walmart attempted to enter the German market but closed their operations there in 2006 and not because it could not build out of town shopping outlets. The German people simply did not shop there.
Walmart has a presence in almost all other European countries other than Russia.
Again, as a Consumer it sucked because you pay FULL RETAIL, and I mean FULL Retail which also pays for all that "Free" health care.
The lowliest McDonald's worker, Maid, etc. Pays 35 Percent in income tax, and it goes up to 80% for higher income earners.
You pay what supply and demand will allow. That is how it works where you are too. There are many many cut price chains in Germany. Currently they are expanding across Europe.
Health care in Germany and most of the other countries in Europe that operates a free at the point of access health care system is funded from general taxation and salary Insurance contribution. It has nothing to do with VAT.
However whilst we are on the subject of VAT. Those countries in Europe that apply it do so at a rate that is set by them. It varies from country to country. Many items are exempt including the majority of food items. More broadly as a business you are VAT registered and until you turnover a specific amount you are exempt as a trader on much of the consumable products you use and services you buy or sell.
Finally most studies on personal taxation have shown that Americans are amongst the highest taxed in the world. Who wants to live there?
They also have a 17.5 VAT. (value added tax, that is passed on and accumulated for each leg of the supply chain)
So this is how that works. A mining company mines iron ore and sells it to the steel mill Plus 17.5%, The steel mill smelts it and sells the steel to Mercedes plus another 17.5%, Mercedes sells you the car, plus 17.5%. That's what I mean by FULL Retail.
So, anybody want to move to Europe???
No it is not how it works. You ignorance is totally astounding. Well done.