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I guess here is as good a place to post this as any:

MY DISC IS DONE!!

The one I've posted about off & on for the past 3 years. And I couldn't have done it without all you guys at homerecording.com. SERIOUSLY. I've consulted this board on everything from gear purchases to EQ tweaking, & as a result, the disc sounds great.

But don't just trust me. Judge for yourself:

http://www.thematthewshow.com/Music/Musicmain.htm

Once again, thanks to all you guys, especially the old timers. You're the greatest.
 
Congratulations, Sir Matthew! Best of luck with your project.


Bob
 
Yo Matthew! It has been an issue around here for a while whether a release announcement is some kind of evil SPAM on the board. I clearly fall into the camp that says- no. It's no more SPAM than if you posted up that you had a new baby. I believe that we who have the balls to track an album at home need to support each other's stubborness. Consider one copy, at least, sold- to me. Congrats. My first real album goes to the mixing engineer this week. I know how it feels, and it feels-good. Best of luck-Richie
 
Thanks, Bob. Kind words are salve for the battle wounds.

And Richard, I feel for you, my friend. That sense of finality when at last you're ready for mixing is a bitch. "Should I have re-done that guitar part?" "Is that really the best vocal I could do?" "Is that song good enough?"

But then you mix it, and you master it, and you press it, and when at last you hold the artwork in your hand and hear your music on the old home stereo, you're the happiest musician in Musicianland.

And then 10 years later you can hear all the holes and nasty bits, and you tell people never to speak of it again.

But right now, it's great.

Good luck to you. And you're a peach for buying one. Lemme know when yours comes out, & I'll do the same. We'll compare notes.
 
Good luck

Mid way through 2002 I set myself a target to get my own CD 'out' by end of 2003. Ha! How naive i was.

Knowing what i do now, after starting the long painful process of learning how to record at home, my question really is how on earth did you manage it in ONLY 3 years! LOL! I am WAY behing schedule and have revised my plan to somewhere towrd the end of 2004!

I'm only at the recording and writing stage (often in that order!). Bits get re-written and revised, scrapped and re-recorded. The most difficult thing is to know when to stop and say, 'yes, that'll do' especaily as I keep learning more stuff from people here concerning the best way to track and record and master correctly.

A couple of questions...

Did you pay for 'outside' mastering or do it yourself (if the latter what techniques did you use?)?
Did you finish the actual writing of all the songs three years ago, or did the recording and writing go hand in hand over the 3 year period?
How did you decide which of your songs would make the final cut and which ones weren't suitable? Did you just ask friends or trust your own judgement?

- GlynB
 
Re: Good luck

glynb said:
Mid way through 2002 I set myself a target to get my own CD 'out' by end of 2003. Ha! How naive i was.

Knowing what i do now, after starting the long painful process of learning how to record at home, my question really is how on earth did you manage it in ONLY 3 years! LOL! I am WAY behing schedule and have revised my plan to somewhere towrd the end of 2004!

Oh, man. I busted my old band up in January of 2000, believing that by that time the following year I would have my new disc at least recorded, if not pressed.

Stupid, stupid, stupid me.

The thing is, all but one of these songs were already written when I started. That's why I wanted to do the record, because these were all songs my old band didn't want to do. And in fact, I had far more material than that, but I figured I'd whittle the track listing down during the recording process, depending on which ones were sounding better.

That part worked. Some tracks were shaping up better than others, and so I nudged the other ones onto the back burner. They'll probably see the light of day at some point, when I have more resources to record them the way I want.

My goals have had to shift. I wanted to have my first album out by the time I was 21, but with life being the way it is, I ended up shooting for having it out before I was 30. And I juuust made it by about 4 months. Dang.

glynb said:
I'm only at the recording and writing stage (often in that order!). Bits get re-written and revised, scrapped and re-recorded. The most difficult thing is to know when to stop and say, 'yes, that'll do' especaily as I keep learning more stuff from people here concerning the best way to track and record and master correctly.

A couple of questions...

Did you pay for 'outside' mastering or do it yourself (if the latter what techniques did you use?)?
Did you finish the actual writing of all the songs three years ago, or did the recording and writing go hand in hand over the 3 year period?
How did you decide which of your songs would make the final cut and which ones weren't suitable? Did you just ask friends or trust your own judgement?

- GlynB

It's hard to know when to stop. Trust your instincts. And your wife, if you have one. Or a close friend who won't lie to you, even when it hurts. That helps.

I did decide to use outside mastering (Arthur Winer at Canaveral Skies is great, you can find his website on my Others page), primarily because I wanted a fresh set of ears to catch any wacky bits if they existed. And because I don't know jack shit about mastering. Nor can I afford the equipment. It only ended up being about $850, which took a while to save up, but it was well worth it.

As far as choosing songs, only you know what songs represent you best. While recording this thing and hearing these songs eight million times, I found that there were some that spoke to me a lot more than others. That's the only reliable gauge. Screw "radio playability". If it doesn't come from your heart, people will know.

But that's just me. And I'm still a dayjobbing grunt boy, so you can take the above advice for whatever it may be worth. All I can say is that I spent 3 years making my ideal album, and I like it.
 
Ain't it Grand? You know, there really is no appropriate forum here to discuss how the whole package of recording a CD works. I planned this for a 2 year project, and I think we're about 6 weeks behind schedule. Not bad. The biggest hitches were one badass flu last winter, (couldn't sing for almost 2 months), and some legal involving a line that really was a short phrase, nothing copywritable, which does *not* rise to the level of a copyright infringement. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
In 2 short years from clueless newbie to clueless producer! Yay, momma! I have learned how to pay mechanicals and fill out copyright forms. Jeff Webb, our drummer, is working furiously on the cover. He's an artist and an art teacher, so that helps. We're doing our own damn production on the booklet, no smiling picture of *me* on the cover! The desktop people are formatting it so the nice computers can talk to each other.
Jesus, this is almost almost like work. Can I remember how to play? Hell no, I spend too much time in a recording studio! I'm outsourcing mixing and mastering, and that was the plan from the beginning. To just track it at home. It makes for a sooo much better vibe in a good project studio than the usual meat market pro studio attitude. Yes, I note they're not all like that. No musician in this project got used for a tool, or was left out of the creative loop. In all cases, the knowledge of the musician regarding recording techniques was aggressively increased, to give them more control over the sound and the material.
We've had some fun, and brought together old friends, old lovers, old music partners, and a couple of genuine ringers. Three project studios have resulted from this project. Some of the sidemen (and women) have discovered that they *should* have their own acoustic play room. Next project, we won't be exchanging so many humans, mostly files. For the price of a new Lexus, give or take, it's well worth it. I get to keep the toys. PM me or email me. I'd love to talk to people who are producing at this level, on the dividing line between kickass project studio and fly-by-night pro level.-Richie
 
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