texroadkill

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"I like doing shakers and other hand percussion with an omni to capture some room sound. A lot of times if you have just one track with an obvious room ambience on it it will trick you into thinking the entire band is in that same room and it gives the song a more realistic feel."

I tried an omni with the shaker like you suggested because my room's got a nice enough sound with acoustic sources. I tracked the shaker with a SD cardioid as well. Despite the fact that the cardioid is a way better mic than the omni (a very quiet AKG C480B, compared to a Behringer ECM 8000, which is fairly noisy) I liked the omni sound better. Just goes to show, yeah? Right tool for the job.

Thanks for the good idea. :)
 
Anytime.

Harvey mentioned micing a few feet from above in a thread and that seems to work pretty well for keeping the level a more consistent. So far percussion is about the only thing I really like the ECM's on.

Now if I could just play some percussion worth a crap I would be all set too. Thank god for loops :D
 
Tex and daf:

there may be another factor operating here as well. Like you, I use small diaphragm omnis for hand percussion, but not because I care much about adding room sound.

it's more that those mics tend to be the flattest, even at ultra-high frequencies. Tambourines, claves, triangles, shakers, etc. can send out such an overabundance of high frequency information that many cardioid mics start distorting badly. The small omnis do a much better job of capturing the sound without artifacts.
 
LD- Yeah that's a good point. We were talking about percussion in another thread and it seems like flatter omni's are better for sources that are easy to be harsh sounding.
 
littledog - the first time I tracked the shaker, I put my 'best' mic on it - a large diaphragm condenser. I won't do that again soon. Not a nice sound. No.
 
nOOOOOOOOOO!!!

dafduc said:
Right there with you, my brutha...:cool:


NNNNNNooooo!!!!!!
Loops suck for percussion! It does not compare, get the real thing! If you can't play it correctly find a percussionist. Better yet find a real percussionist, a drummer could be a good alternative.
If its just a couple accent notes here and there try it yourself. If its a ryhtm part that fills the whole song-ya gotta get a percussionist.

I will agree for most HF perc instr. i.e. shakers, triangle tamborines etc usually track(capture) better- with Sd condensors, however a LD can work for some things. It really depends on the tune. It will depend on the room acoustics too!

Hey if ya needs help with percussion, ask me (self plug):D
Tony
 
I'm talking about looping a real recording made in the studio not samples. But of course you are right. Do you ever make it out to Phoenix? I am working on an album where we are going to need some percussion. It is mainly blues with one rumba tune.

We also need a trumpet and acoustic bass player if anyone else is in the area and willing to lay down a few tracks.

Let me know, texroadkill@yahoo.com
 
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