Tele vs SG

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Hello!

Well, I'm going to buy my first electric guitar...

Just wan't to hear your opinion...

What would you choose:

o Fender Special Highway 1 Telecaster
o Gibson SG Special...

Notice I've been playing guitar for 6 years... acoustic mostly... and some borrowed electric guitars...

Thanks in advance,
Pedro

ps: about my other post ('What amp?'): I made my mind on.... none... I think I'm gonna get my self a POD...
 
Ya, Tele is where its at. If you play acoustic and like to really be able to control your sound with your hands, the tele cannot be beat.

Now if you want an all out electric sound with smoldering distortion for a change of pace, then get an SG.

I would say the Tele is the best bet for clean to a nice breakup sound. It works on distortion too, but I wouldn't recomend metal. They say it can be done, but thats why they made the SG.




(soon enough you will own both)
 
Not to disagree with the other two esteemed posters but I'd go with the Tele.
 
I'd go with a Tele also.

Yoy might consider the Chinese copies by Jay Turser till you're totally obsessed, that way could have both and money left over.

http://www.jayturser.com/
 
Have you played them? There's a world of difference. I'd go for the SG personally, but that's my opinion. What's yours?
 
Thank you for your opinions... :)

So far I'm inclined towards the SG, don't know why...

There's something I would like to add... I play from Pink Floyd to Deep Puprple, Led Zeppelin and some blues...

LocusLarsen: How do you define metal?... :)

Oh... Btw, should I get the Classic 50s Tele instead of the Highway 1?
 
Well Pink Floyd used a strat. Mostly. And Zeppelin used a LesPaul (like SG as far as I care).
I haven't listened to Deep Purple. Sorry. Sure I heard them somewhere.

My impression of metal would be that endless sustain. I don't really know what metal is, just if that word is in you vocabulary, then a Tele probably isn't.

Black Sabbath used a SG. Thats some power there.

SGs are very nice and I am sure you would be happy with either. I have a Tele and a LesPaul. One week the Tele is my baby, the next its my LP.

I haven't played a Highway or 50's classic. I usually say get a standard or better because that is the "standard" and stuff below is usually less of something. I say look for a used American standard or the likes for the same as a new Highway or Classic.

I didn't see your other thread, but as for amps or the POD. I hear the POD is nice, I use a Roland for recording a lot, but the amount of acually control over your sound is a lot less in the digital domain. Look for a used tube amp. About 6 watts for home usage to be used at it fullest with the most tone, and about 15-30 watts for band pracice or gigging.

A tele will shimmer clean to a nice breakup in a tube amp, and a SG will will break when played nice and soft, and overdrive in the best of ways when played hard.

You should really go to a Guitar Center and mess around. A Fender ProJr is nice and cheap even new.
 
Well, the amp and gain will have much more to do with break up and overdrive than the guitar you're playing. Having said that, Locus seems to be talking about the fundamental difference between single coils and humbuckers. The consensus among most guitarists is that you invariably need both.

How about a '72 custom tele? Tele bridge with a humbucker in the neck. Yup, there's your answer.
 
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Well acually, the amp and gain have less to do with it. If its a master volume, like any good amp, you just turn up the volume until its loud enough. When you plug in a single coil, they have less output. If you turn an amp up to the point of it just starting to breakup when you play hard with a Tele, when you blug in an SG, it will scream.

Now if you are using something like a Marshall JCM then you will still see a very noticable difference in the pickup output of a single coil VS humbucker because no matter how much gain you toss on in the preamp stage, the signal that you start with is different, but the wood the guitar is made out of keeps them from sounding the same even if you have a humbucker in a Tele. A Bluesbreaker or Plexi is a Master volume amp so they work like most Fenders, in that you just turn the up to proper volume and let go.

Simply put, a humbucker can overdrive any amp you use a lot easier. And the Mahogany body of the SG is going to give a smoother overdrive (distortion), than a Tele that is made from Alder, Popular, or Ash.
 
I'd go for a Les Paul Jr{with P90's}..Around 600.00 to 700.00..Easy to play.. a little "briter" than a SG and a little "fatter" than a Tele..Just a different option


Don
 
Or you can get a SG Junior with P-90s and get the look you want...


It's almost the best of both worlds- but even if you get a Tele and a SG standard, P-90s will always have their use...


Often :)
 
Drats!! Foiled again!!:mad: :D :D
True SG Jr. I forgot about those!..Back in the early 60's that SG Jr
was called a Les paul Jr.It has no bearing on this but what the hey:)


Don
 
We can all post our opinions here, but the best advice is just to try to play a few (or a bunch) of each.
 
Jimmy Page used a Tele a lot in the studio even though he was nearly always seen live with the Les Paul. I forget the details, it's been a lot of years, but much of the first two albums was Tele, like the solo on "Communication Breakdown". Also in his Firm days, he played a Tele modified with some sort of bending device to get that pedal steel sound like on the solo for "Satisfaction Guaranteed" or whatever that song was called. Although also on that same track, he had a Les Paul with a modified bridge for bowing. So really he used both guitars a lot.

Ritchie Blackmore I recall always used a Strat live, and thinking about their psychedelic sound, I think that's right.

I've never liked Strats, I think Hendrix is the only guy whose sound I liked, everybody else just sounds like a bad imitation, whereas the Tele and Les Paul seem more flexible.

In the '80s I owned two guitars, an active pickup Tele and limited edition Les custom with active pickups, red sparkle finish, black hardware, etc. It was like $1000 in '88, I shudder to think how much a guitar like that would cost now.

But I can't stand active pickups anymore, they disguise the sound of the guitar. So I've got two different guitars in the studio now, your basic late '80s US Tele with a maple neck, and a '99 The Paul, which was like an SG with a Les Paul shape--no top, thinner, lighter, has the black uncovered humbuckers and IT ROCKS. It was only $600 but it's my favorite guitar ever. The tone is just awesome. If you ever see "The Song Remains the Same" (and honestly, I hope you don't), during the 57 minute version of "Whole Lotta Love", Page switches from his usual Les Paul to one with the SG pickups, and rips out the thickest, fattest sounding riff ever. My The Paul has that tone, I love it.

There is one major major major difference between Tele and SG/Les Paul, and that's the scale length--the Tele is longer. I'm lazy so the Les Paul is the clear winner here.

Basically if I want a guitar to stand out in the mix, I use the Tele, if I want it to drop back, I use the Les Paul. The Les gets most of the work. It's like when you play a chord, each note on the Tele is distinct, but on the Paul, it sounds like a single massive chord. I like the option of having both.

With what you like to play, that's kind of tough. The Les Paul kind of sucks for blues but is great for metal. I like the Tele with humbucker idea, but I'd want it in the bridge position. I don't think Fender makes one like that anymore.

What about one of the odder Gibsons, like the Blues Hawk? I've never played one, but they look interesting.
 
My favorite pickup on my tele is the neck one. I wouldn't put a humbucker there for a million dollars.
 
Hum...

I don't really understand much about single coils and humbuckers but that '72 Custom idea seemed insteresting... though, I agree with Locus: I would prefer it with the humbucker on the bridge...

I've checked the fender site and I don't think that they made those anymore....

Please keep on posting....

ps: I was looking for that 'Obscured by clouds'/'Dark side of the moon' sound... mostly....
 
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