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pashop
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http://www.musicstrategies.com/aboutus/default.asp
Hey whats all this about?
Kinda looks like the Tony Robbins method of promotion.
Get out there sell them damn CD's door to door if you have to
Hey whats all this about?
Kinda looks like the Tony Robbins method of promotion.
Get out there sell them damn CD's door to door if you have to
bdbdbuck
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Pashop,
Just another way to separate the musician from his hard earned duckets!!!
I have a website for you:
http://www.vmgworldwide.com/fullsite.htm
Also, did you do the art work above? If so check out the homerec.com compilation cd threads, they're looking for cover art.
bd
Just another way to separate the musician from his hard earned duckets!!!
I have a website for you:
http://www.vmgworldwide.com/fullsite.htm
Also, did you do the art work above? If so check out the homerec.com compilation cd threads, they're looking for cover art.
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weatherbill
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could'nt find splashbox or seegoddess on a search
You must be non existent or brand new or obscure cause i typed you into a net search and your name didn't even pop up.
I guess all those yrs at indie biz haven't got you much off the ground if you're not on the web.
RU? Prove it! ANd why are you sitting in an attorney's office. They're the scum of the industry! They make the music serve them, not you or the fans!
You must be non existent or brand new or obscure cause i typed you into a net search and your name didn't even pop up.
I guess all those yrs at indie biz haven't got you much off the ground if you're not on the web.
RU? Prove it! ANd why are you sitting in an attorney's office. They're the scum of the industry! They make the music serve them, not you or the fans!
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pashop
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w bill Not that it matters but I found it first time .......I did spell it right though
bdbdbuck......I cannot lie ...........I did it all on my echa-sketch.....in the dark.......after 12 beers........and making mad passionate love to Shania.....on my boat .........in Barbados.
Its hard to be inspired these days
Oh ya I ran across the vmg site a few years back.....guys got some serious issues. Im not sure if I want to call the record company and ask for "General". I could see the first meeting.
" Ok you lazy over over weight good for nothing musicians give me 50 "
bdbdbuck......I cannot lie ...........I did it all on my echa-sketch.....in the dark.......after 12 beers........and making mad passionate love to Shania.....on my boat .........in Barbados.
Its hard to be inspired these days
Oh ya I ran across the vmg site a few years back.....guys got some serious issues. Im not sure if I want to call the record company and ask for "General". I could see the first meeting.
" Ok you lazy over over weight good for nothing musicians give me 50 "
bdbdbuck
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Yeah, there's some pretty hard core slams on that site to be sure.
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Myx62
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David Hooper said:
Dave , It seems ironic that you place a lot of importance on performing, yet dont want anything to do with it. I also dont really desire to perform anymore, although I am good at it. I dont drink/drugs and despise the club scene. I like writing, recording and experimenting. I would perform at a park or block party though. I would like to do the Steely Dan thing though.....I too very much enjoy the creative process.
I have made some good money teaching, but It gets wearing.
Maybe I should write a book. Ever read the Book off the charts? I highly recommend it. It would wake up most to the demise of the music industry.
Myx
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Tucci
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Well, I went to 2NMC
This is an interesting thread. I went to the 2NMC in Nashville and enjoyed myself...but I only paid $10....would I have paid $100? Nope....but I learned a few things while I was there and met some neat people including Bleu, a guy who had a song on the spiderman soundtrack. Nice fellow and he was one of the very few acts whose performance I really enjoyed. I think he and his band are opening for "Toad the Wet Sprocket" now.
I also was a member of Indiebiz for awhile at $10 when Dave offered me a promotional deal. I got some good advice, but I didn't renew my mebership because I really felt that I could get most of the same info for less money and more work. Not that it was bad advice or info....
I've also received the 'ten day music bussiness lesson" course from indiebiz.com, the free one. I actually really enjoyed it and picked up much useful info. I reccomend that any beginner who wants to read some useful articles sign up for it...it's free.
So I sympathize with both sides a little bit. I'm sure that Dave genuinely helps a lot of people. I'm also sure that a lot of people sign up for his services and don't really benefit.
But then, I've given guitar and piano lessons to a lot of people...some benefit and some don't. The truth is, the ones who benefit the most from the lessons are the ones who would be able to get along pretty well whether or not they pay me for lessons...but paying for my lessons gives them a boost.
I don't think Dave can be slandered because his book is entitled, "Make 100K in the Music Business".
Of course not everyone who buys or reads the book expects that to happen just because they bought the book.....the title is advertising and if you don't know that you've got other problems. And I especially don't think you can attack him because of the book unless you've read it. Come on, at least be fair - maybe it's a great book and maybe it's not. If you've read it and think it's hogwash that's fine...but at least read it first.
Also, in these threads Dave has not attacked anyone personally as far as I remember. I've stated that I did not renew my membership to Indiebiz.com because I felt I could get the same help elsewhere for less money but more work. Maybe if I come by a few extra dollars I might buy his book...out of curiosity at the very least. I've spent more money on things out of curiosity...and it might turn out to be a really good book.
I do think that Dave is guilty of spam to some degree. But to his credit his posts are not pure obnoxious spam...often I have found them informative and helpful. They are never rude or irrelevant.
His point was good, that he didn't start this thread. Someone asked if anyone knew anything about indiebiz.com and he replied.
This is an interesting thread. I went to the 2NMC in Nashville and enjoyed myself...but I only paid $10....would I have paid $100? Nope....but I learned a few things while I was there and met some neat people including Bleu, a guy who had a song on the spiderman soundtrack. Nice fellow and he was one of the very few acts whose performance I really enjoyed. I think he and his band are opening for "Toad the Wet Sprocket" now.
I also was a member of Indiebiz for awhile at $10 when Dave offered me a promotional deal. I got some good advice, but I didn't renew my mebership because I really felt that I could get most of the same info for less money and more work. Not that it was bad advice or info....
I've also received the 'ten day music bussiness lesson" course from indiebiz.com, the free one. I actually really enjoyed it and picked up much useful info. I reccomend that any beginner who wants to read some useful articles sign up for it...it's free.
So I sympathize with both sides a little bit. I'm sure that Dave genuinely helps a lot of people. I'm also sure that a lot of people sign up for his services and don't really benefit.
But then, I've given guitar and piano lessons to a lot of people...some benefit and some don't. The truth is, the ones who benefit the most from the lessons are the ones who would be able to get along pretty well whether or not they pay me for lessons...but paying for my lessons gives them a boost.
I don't think Dave can be slandered because his book is entitled, "Make 100K in the Music Business".
Of course not everyone who buys or reads the book expects that to happen just because they bought the book.....the title is advertising and if you don't know that you've got other problems. And I especially don't think you can attack him because of the book unless you've read it. Come on, at least be fair - maybe it's a great book and maybe it's not. If you've read it and think it's hogwash that's fine...but at least read it first.
Also, in these threads Dave has not attacked anyone personally as far as I remember. I've stated that I did not renew my membership to Indiebiz.com because I felt I could get the same help elsewhere for less money but more work. Maybe if I come by a few extra dollars I might buy his book...out of curiosity at the very least. I've spent more money on things out of curiosity...and it might turn out to be a really good book.
I do think that Dave is guilty of spam to some degree. But to his credit his posts are not pure obnoxious spam...often I have found them informative and helpful. They are never rude or irrelevant.
His point was good, that he didn't start this thread. Someone asked if anyone knew anything about indiebiz.com and he replied.
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David Hooper
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Re: Well, I went to 2NMC
For the record, the book is "How I Make $100,000/year in the Music Business" and it's called that because, Lee Kennedy, the guy I wrote the book with, is a musician who does just that.
Tucci said:
For the record, the book is "How I Make $100,000/year in the Music Business" and it's called that because, Lee Kennedy, the guy I wrote the book with, is a musician who does just that.
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pashop
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Tucci
As a wise old girlfriend once said : What's the point Bucket Head"
The point is you didn't join. This cost you a total of $10,00
Good for you
Dave
The quote below is from your site:
"Don't let the fact that I'm in Nashville fool you. I've done promotion and marketing campaigns for dozens of labels and bands of all genres.
I have been featured in several music magazines and am a popular panelist/speaker at major music conferences throughout the United States and Canada. My latest book, "$100,000/year in the Music Business," is a bestseller.
I've worked with hundreds of bands on their music promotion. Regardless of whether they are unsigned, on an independent, or on a major label, they all have one thing in common. The most important thing contributing to their musical success (or lack thereof) is knowledge of the music industry."
Who are the labels that you have promoted for?
Who are the bands that you have promoted for? ( there must be some that I have heard of )
Why does the " How I " seem to not make it into 90% of the advertising including being in mini fonts on the book. Changes the meaning drasticly
Makeing $100,000.00 is selling 2500 books. With all the spaming that should be easy. Better yet get 100 people to join indibiz for a year........another $100,000.00
Damn .................its all smoke and mirrors.
As a wise old girlfriend once said : What's the point Bucket Head"
The point is you didn't join. This cost you a total of $10,00
Good for you
Dave
The quote below is from your site:
"Don't let the fact that I'm in Nashville fool you. I've done promotion and marketing campaigns for dozens of labels and bands of all genres.
I have been featured in several music magazines and am a popular panelist/speaker at major music conferences throughout the United States and Canada. My latest book, "$100,000/year in the Music Business," is a bestseller.
I've worked with hundreds of bands on their music promotion. Regardless of whether they are unsigned, on an independent, or on a major label, they all have one thing in common. The most important thing contributing to their musical success (or lack thereof) is knowledge of the music industry."
Who are the labels that you have promoted for?
Who are the bands that you have promoted for? ( there must be some that I have heard of )
Why does the " How I " seem to not make it into 90% of the advertising including being in mini fonts on the book. Changes the meaning drasticly
Makeing $100,000.00 is selling 2500 books. With all the spaming that should be easy. Better yet get 100 people to join indibiz for a year........another $100,000.00
Damn .................its all smoke and mirrors.
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David Hooper
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pashop said:
Ask around. Client list is on the site and in the book. Yes, there are some you have heard of.
pashop said:
The "(Without a Record Label, Manager, or Booking Agent)" also gets dropped. The main reason is simply to shorten a long book title, nothing more. Personally, I think the "How I" added to the title makes it sound a lot more legit. If I were worried about the book's legitimacy, I'd definitely leave that in.
But I don't have to worry about that...enough people have read it and are saying good things about it that I don't have to say or prove anything.
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David Hooper
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Myx62 said:
There are things I would rather do than perform music. Why is that ironic?
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David Hooper
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Re: Well, I went to 2NMC
This sums it up. If the music business were that easy to get involved with, we'd all just buy our way in. It takes something beyond that though.
Yeah, you're going to learn what I know eventually. The question is, do you want to learn it as soon as possible while you have a chance to do something with that information or do you want to learn it from trial and error?
Tucci said:
This sums it up. If the music business were that easy to get involved with, we'd all just buy our way in. It takes something beyond that though.
Yeah, you're going to learn what I know eventually. The question is, do you want to learn it as soon as possible while you have a chance to do something with that information or do you want to learn it from trial and error?
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David Hooper
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pashop said:
Music Strategies is put together by Tim Sweeney. He wrote a very popular book that some of you might know called "Guide to Releasing Independent Records."
I've heard good things about this conference.
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Myx62
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Dave, I ment the performance of people like myself that would rather be studio musicians an focus on the creativity. You yourself would rather do that, but advise others its a no win situation....?
Dave , do you answer your PM,s?
Myx
Dave , do you answer your PM,s?
Myx
Buffalo Bob
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David Hooper
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Myx62 said:
I don't say it's a "no win" situation. What I tell people is that playing live is an easy way to make money as well as get in front on hundreds of potential fans at one time.
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David Hooper
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Buffalo Bob said:Your client list reads like a regular "Who?..Who?"
How old are you Bob? What kind of music do you listen to?
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pashop
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I have to start reading and replying one line at a time.
Buffalo Bob
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"How old are you Bob? What kind of music do you listen to?"
I'm very flattered, David, but I'm happily married.
I'm very flattered, David, but I'm happily married.