T-R- S patchbay

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I'm looking at the DBX 48-point TRS patch bay.

patch bay channels 1 through 8 will have A-rear connected to the mackie, and B-rear connected to the Tango24 D/A/D. patch bay channels 9 through 16 will have A-rear connected to the mackie inserts for channels 9 through 16, but will have nothing connected to B rear.

will i be able to hear what i'm playing at the mixer for channels 9 through 16 if nothing is connected to 9 through 16 B-rear of the patch bay?

I'm confusing myself just writing this.
 
Hey Crosstudio

You need some technical explanation !
Pay a visit to the Behringer site and download the manual. It is very didactic for someone willing to understand patching issues...

http://www.behringer.com/02_products/prodindex.cfm?id=PX2000

I use a couple of these Behringer PX2000. They are very satisfying : strongly build and flexible (Normal/Half-normal/Open/parallel) BUT they are not balanced. Depending on your setup, you may decide to work with unbalanced patchbays.
However, symmetric (or balanced) patchbays are not more expensive.

Hope it helps,

Patrick
 
One more thing Crosstudio

I you want to connect your Mackie mixer channel inserts to a patchbay, you must connect the insert OUT cable to the A rear and the insert IN cable to the B rear of the same patchbay channel. Setting for this patchbay channel should be either Normalled or Half-Normalled .
If you don't do that, you are just interrupting your audio channel and will not be in a position to ear anything going out from this mixer channel !

In my studio, I handle it differently.
I have Reverb/Multi-FX/... "normally" aligned to the AUX sends 1, 2, 3 of the Mackie Analog 24*8 via the patchbay. It means that the Reverb/Multi-FX/... OUTs are connected to other patchbay channels where you naturally find the ... AUX returns ! (you bet, you won).

Cheers,

Patrick
 
crosstudio said:
I'm looking at the DBX 48-point TRS patch bay.

patch bay channels 1 through 8 will have A-rear connected to the mackie, ...
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to the Mackie what...and which Mackie

also, is your goal to always have the Mackie drive inputs on the Tango...describe a bit more about your goal in setting up your routing through the patch bay....

any Tango outputs going through the PatchBay.

you'll probably want a Half-Normalled Patch-bay. and do you know Top is Out and Bottom is In...just like water running down hill...

FWIW...DO NOT SCRIMP ON A PATCH BAY...if you do you'll end up fighting it and finally taking it out because it ends up being more trouble than its worth.
 
Having been a "hook em' up direct" kind of guy up till now...I just acquired a Furman PB-40 TRS patchbay.
Let's say I want to hook up my dbx 266 to use on the kick drum channel insert....
The 266's in/out will go into the rear, and a single 1/4" (TRS both ends) will go to the bottom (therefore breaking the signal) as opposed to tapping into the signal?
Never used one of these puppies before...but it seems to be a pretty handy gadget once I get the hang of it.
 
White Trash said:
Having been a "hook em' up direct" kind of guy up till now...I just acquired a Furman PB-40 TRS patchbay.
Let's say I want to hook up my dbx 266 to use on the kick drum channel insert....
The 266's in/out will go into the rear, and a single 1/4" (TRS both ends) will go to the bottom (therefore breaking the signal) as opposed to tapping into the signal?
Never used one of these puppies before...but it seems to be a pretty handy gadget once I get the hang of it.
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several ways to do this but i'd recommend this as a start...

since the 266 is a dual device you'll need four patchbay channels...

looking at the Patchbay left to right...

X X X X Top Row
1 2 3 4
Z Z Z Z Bottom Row

From the 266 to the back Jacks of the Patchbay

266 Out Left -> X3
266 Out Right -> X4

266 In Left -> Z1
266 In Right -> Z2

Now to use as an insert...

Patchbay front Jacks...

Mixer Loop Out to Z1 or Z2

Mixer Loop In to X3 or X4 (respectfully)

or

Mixer Loop Out -> Z1(front) = Z1(back) -> dbx 266 In Left
dbx 266 Out Left -> X3(back) = X3(front) -> Mixer Loop Return
 
Thanks much, Sonixx.
Your diagram was very helpful.
I found a little info on the Furman site as well. This model has been replaced by the PB-48, but they still had a spec/tech sheet.
 
i have two Furman Patchbays also. but presently i'm only using a Tascam Balanced Patchbay.

good luck...
 
funny thing, i was searching for a furman patchbay on zzounds.com and ran across a mackie rotopod for sale for $25. i built a studio table that has a slanted rack as the center piece with the PC monitor sitting over the mixer, and audio monitors flanked outside. my fatar keyboard sits in front of the mackie 1604 mixer.

i said all this to say, that i was buying a patchbay because i was tired of having to get behind the rack to change which mixer channel inserts the Tango24 was plugged into.

now, with the rotopod turning the cables to table top position, i can reach the cables easily and no longer need a patchbay.
 
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