Swearing in Songs

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it's was more jokingly than serious. Although saying that an internationally exhibited pohotgrapher's work wasn't art didn't help. I'm too smart(ass) for my own good sometimes :rolleyes:
 
'Art' is an abstract concept based on perception. Not everyone will percieve things the same way.

If you build a chair, everyone will know it is a chair. If you decide to call it 'art', nothing has changed. It's still the same chair that it was 5 minutes ago. The only difference is now, you and everyone who thinks like you will look at it differently and judge it on a different set of merits. The chair remains the same.

But just to say that it isn't art is very arrogant
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To assume that the world should recognize what you do as 'art' just because you say so sounds pretty arrogant to me.
 
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Sillyhat said:
'If you build a chair, everyone will know it is a chair. If you decide to call it 'art', nothing has changed. It's still the same chair that it was 5 minutes ago. The only difference is now, you and everyone who thinks like you will look at it differently and judge it on a different set of merits. The chair remains the same.
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Now you're starting to get it! Duchamp signed a Urinal and put it in a show for a reason. The idea is that art is in the eye of the creator not the viewer. When you put it out to be viewed as art... It's art. Sometimes art isn't even an object. There is a whole feild called happenings that is about having art as an event.

Now for you to say it isn't really art isn't your duty. Your charge as the viewer is to asses the merit of that art. I don't speak this out my ass by the way. It is a pretty widely accepted idea.

P.S. Sorry for highjacking this thread...
 
It is my job to decide whether or not I think it's art. It isn't my job to tell you or anyone else what to think about it.
 
Sillyhat said:
It is my job to decide whether or not I think it's art. It isn't my job to tell you or anyone else what to think about it.
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switch em up and you're golden... GOLDEN!!! Hey and if you think Serrano was wacked look at Vito Acconci (a-con-chi). He is my favorite. He did one of my all time favorites. He held an exhibit, and when people came all it was was a speaker in the corner. Vito was under the floor and the speaker was playing the LIVE sounds of him masterbating... Now THAT is art. You just got people to pay to listen to you jerk off. God I love art.

Maybe I like it so much because of the audio connection...
 
You see, now that is art. It's a metaphor. Most people who think they make art are really just masterbating.
 
Art is pretty cool. As long as you at least give the artist credit for making art you're cool in my book. Trust me... I think most art and artists are full of shit too. But I never the less give them the respect of calling it art if they say that's what it is.
 
mrT said:
But I never the less give them the respect of calling it art if they say that's what it is.
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If it is art just because the maker says so, the term is meaningless.

For example: I decree that my last 7 posts are art.
 
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Most of the time there is a better, more creative, more impactful way of getting the same thing across. As noted many times in the thread already, its the rare case when it IS the best way to get something across.

I remember grinning from ear to ear in high school one day walking down the hall with Axle Rose swearing away in my headphones. Can't remember which song, but it sure did make me feel bad in a good kind of way at that age. (shrug)

-C
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I could be wrong, but Im guessing it was "The Ring"

something like "you wanna antagonize me motherfucker, get in the ring motherfucker, I'll kick your bitchy little ass"

I remember listening to Queen's "A night at the Opera" and digging the cussin!
 
If you say so... How are you going to exhibit it? What were you trying to get across with it? Why does it suck balls so much?
 
if the swearing is out of place (9 out of 10 songs, this is the case), then it absolutely kills every inch of effectiveness of the songs message. if it is used effectively, carefully, and not overused then it makes the whole song.

listen to cake's version of "I Will Survive", then come back and tell me what your favorite line of the song is.
 
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mrT said:
If you say so... How are you going to exhibit it?
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It's exhibited on this BBS.

mrT said:
What were you trying to get across with it?
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If you don't understand it, it wasn't meant for you. However, according to your rules, you must give it the respect of calling it art just because I say it is.



mrT said:
Why does it suck balls so much?
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It has to in order to get it's message across.
 
NOw just get someone to pay to see it or have it... If you can do that I'll be impressed by your art. (even though that's not what you meant it to be)
 
mrT said:
NOw just get someone to pay to see it or have it... If you can do that I'll be impressed by your art. (even though that's not what you meant it to be)
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So, now it's only art if someone will pay to see it or have it? You're making this up as you go along, aren't you?
 
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