Summer (Original Instrumental)

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I think it all sounds pretty good, but the reverbs make it sound disjointed. The drums seem much farther away than the rest of the instrumentation. I'd personally like it all a bit drier and more cohesive in that regard. Other than that I think the tones and general mix are pretty good.
 
Greg_L said:
I think it all sounds pretty good, but the reverbs make it sound disjointed. The drums seem much farther away than the rest of the instrumentation. I'd personally like it all a bit drier and more cohesive in that regard. Other than that I think the tones and general mix are pretty good.
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Thanks for the feedback Greg. I don't know if you heard the original version. I don't have it now, the links all point to the latest version. But I did cut back the reverb on the lead guitar, while keeping the delay the same and I brought the drums "closer". Not by much in both cases but just a little. I'll do it again and see what happens :)
 
GuitarLegend said:
Thanks for the feedback Greg. I don't know if you heard the original version. I don't have it now, the links all point to the latest version. But I did cut back the reverb on the lead guitar, while keeping the delay the same and I brought the drums "closer". Not by much in both cases but just a little. I'll do it again and see what happens :)
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I make that same comment on a lot of people's mixes. It's just my own personal taste really. I don't like it when everything sounds like it's in a different room. There's nothing wrong with that if that's what you want to do, but for me I look at a mix like it's a band in a room. You never see a band with the drummer in another building, or 200 feet behind the rest of the band, so I don't think mixes should sound like that either. That's just me.
 
Greg_L said:
I make that same comment on a lot of people's mixes. It's just my own personal taste really. I don't like it when everything sounds like it's in a different room. There's nothing wrong with that if that's what you want to do, but for me I look at a mix like it's a band in a room. You never see a band with the drummer in another building, or 200 feet behind the rest of the band, so I don't think mixes should sound like that either. That's just me.
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It might be just you but your opinion means a lot to me. You make me think of things I may be consciously or otherwise ignoring. I am interested in points of view. It would be great if I was enough of a wizard to come up with perfection first time but I am still learning too, even after more than 8 years of it. Its all experience to me so I appreciate the feedback :)
 
Try this version. I had found an effect in Sonar X1 that I didn't know I had and got a bit carried away with it. It is called Sound Stage. I pulled the drums back in a bit in this version while still trying to retain a touch of roominess. See if that is any better. There is still a lot of room to move, no pun intended...

Summer
 
Greg_L said:
I think it all sounds pretty good, but the reverbs make it sound disjointed. The drums seem much farther away than the rest of the instrumentation. I'd personally like it all a bit drier and more cohesive in that regard. Other than that I think the tones and general mix are pretty good.
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Actually the drums were a lot further away than the rest of the instruments. It was right up at the top of the track list, so I dragged it down so it was closer to the guitars. Works great!!! :D
 
GuitarLegend said:
Still trying this soundcloud thingy :D

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All sounding pretty good to me but I haven't heard the earlier versions. My only beef would be the ride cymbal on the chord change... sounds quite robotic - otherwise, all good.
 
Armistice said:
All sounding pretty good to me but I haven't heard the earlier versions. My only beef would be the ride cymbal on the chord change... sounds quite robotic - otherwise, all good.
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Thank you for the feedback. I'll see what I can do with the robot :)

You may have better ears than I do, its almost a cert. I would have thought that a good drummer would keep a relatively constant velocity on the ride. At least I don't continue the ride while performing a drum fill. I would need three hands to manage that. But I will see what I can do about humanizing the ride Thanks again
 
Ok, I have addressed some of the points made by various ppl, added a guitar arpeggio and stumbled upon a more refined tone for the lead guitar. This is a separate link so comparisons may be made with the previous take.

When I checked out the ride cymbal velocities, they were quite random and humanized fairly subtantially, with the emphasis on the beats and subdued between beats. So I emphasised the differences, hopefully doesnt sound so robotic.

 
GuitarLegend said:
Thank you for the feedback. I'll see what I can do with the robot :)

You may have better ears than I do, its almost a cert. I would have thought that a good drummer would keep a relatively constant velocity on the ride. At least I don't continue the ride while performing a drum fill. I would need three hands to manage that. But I will see what I can do about humanizing the ride Thanks again
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Relatively is the key word. The best drummer in the world doesn't hit the same cymbal in exactly the same place at exactly the same velocity 16 times in a row... and even if they could, they wouldn't.... There's a "how to program drums" tute starting up in the drums forum which promises to be useful. Get on board...
 
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