studio vs basement

[Ford Van]

true. i've been doing it for a while so i guess i forgot to mention...leave room for ventilation on amps. i cover up the mic and the front of the amp...like a tent. i usually secure the blanket thru the carrying handle.

"Originally Posted by TexRoadkill
If you are close micing it is all going to sound the same. The difference is that in a nice sounding room, studio or not, you dont have to close mic. Being able to mic the room gives you a whole new pallette of sounds.


It took 14 replies until someone said it right. Good post Tex and right on the money."

not true AT ALL! close micing will minimize reflections but not to the point of making them not a factor in your sound...by a long shot...and i'm talking using mics with a fairly tight pattern, too. the room can make a substantial difference.

The direct vs reflected sound is FAR too great when close micing to worry about the VERY SMALL difference the reflected sound will contribute. About the only thing you will hear from the room in close micing is a bit of a reverb trail. That is all.

Tex is quite right.

 

[bigtoe]

"About the only thing you will hear from the room in close micing is a bit of a reverb trail. That is all."

well i guess you said it yourself...you can hear it...and since you can hear it i personally wouldn't ignore it if it's a problem. those reflections mixing in with the direct signal can change the tone of the guitar quite a bit... whether it matters depends on the material.

there's a substantial difference between the sound of a marshall in a treated room and a concrete basement...(i know...i'm usually in the concrete basement trying to make it work... )... and the mic does hear that difference...as will you.

Mike

 

[Ford Van]

"About the only thing you will hear from the room in close micing is a bit of a reverb trail. That is all."

well i guess you said it yourself...you can hear it...and since you can hear it i personally wouldn't ignore it if it's a problem. those reflections mixing in with the direct signal can change the tone of the guitar quite a bit... whether it matters depends on the material.

there's a substantial difference between the sound of a marshall in a treated room and a concrete basement...(i know...i'm usually in the concrete basement trying to make it work... )... and the mic does hear that difference...as will you.

Mike

Well, you can believe what you want. But, if you took the same exact gear setup, found a mic placement, then did the same recording in the two different rooms, while in a mix, you would never be able to tell the difference. With close micing, the room just doesn't make much of a difference.

 

[cusebassman]

I do love when we get into these wars of opinion... perhaps you should just close-mic the thing in the basement, record, haul the equipment upstairs, do the same, and see. I'm sure by now the person asking the question has tried it out anyway, I'd love to hear what he has to say about it!

 

[bigtoe]

sorry, man - i tell the difference every time i record a guitar amp.

it's pretty distinct so i'm not exactly sure what to say.

try moving an amp in different environments and recording. try recording an amp on a bare surface vs a rugged surface, coupled to the floor vs not coupled to the floor, in a bathroom vs a closet...i dunno. be aware of acoustics. it matters.

over and out

yo- cusebassman: the best way to find out is doing a di and reamping to the same amp in different rooms. i have the di and the reamp and the different rooms. i'll have the time after the holidays to do it if someone can help out on the upload of sound clips. i'd just have a cd and a windows media wav from my work address.

i'd be happy to do it. i'd just need a free evening at the practice spot.

Mike