Studio Projects mics

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Christiaan, in my book too, but that's my personal opinion.
I'd rather have three B1's than one C1.

I still have the MXLV69 and V77 for trying out and the gearpimp is making me an offer I can't refuse, he says.

His last offer was 898 euro for the two, but hey, these are nice tube mics which sounds very nice.
 
Headphones.

way up in this thread there was a bit of a discussion about headphones, and while maybe this should be another thread, it should also be explained why headphones (while you may think they sound better) should not be used to reference anything.
it is sometimes true that you can pick out detail better, IE playing errors, they do not reflect the true tone of the source. try mixing on phones, then listening on any other monitor system. it will sound totally different, and it will not sound good.

A good example of being fooled by headphones was at the NAMM show a couple of years back when the C1 came out. there was a C1 setup beside a U87, hooked up to headphones, and many people came away thinking a C1 sounded very similar, if not exactly the same to a U87.
We all know that a C1 does not sound like a U87. It is also well known that headphones are not a reliable reference. use them for tracking, then set them aside and let your monitors work for you.

NOTE to Han: NS10s are just about as bad as headphones for monitoring. do a search on NS10s and you will get some good suggestions on better monitors.
 
Re: Headphones.

Cave Dweller said:
...A good example of being fooled by headphones was at the NAMM show a couple of years back when the C1 came out. there was a C1 setup beside a U87, hooked up to headphones, and many people came away thinking a C1 sounded very similar, if not exactly the same to a U87...
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I remember reading about those comparisons (Prorec?). But I wouldn’t blame it on the headphones. When I compared the C1 to the U87 at this year’s Summer NAMM via headphones, they didn’t sound anything alike. Whoever said that was either hearing impaired or was listening to different mics than the two I heard. Headphones will fool you in that you can’t mix by them, but they are very useful for detecting differences in sounds.
 
Cave, you certainly have a point. The C1 and B1 didn't sound very different on the Sennheiser HD 580's. The C1 was a tad brighter.

But on my mains (Sony G7) the difference between the C1 and B1 was significant and also on the NS10's

Having that said, there has been much discussion about NS10's, but the truth is you will still find them on many million dollar boards.

You love'm or hate'm, there's no 'in between'.

Actually I can't mix without listening every now and then to the NS10's.

They sound not nice, in fact they sound horrible, but if you manage to make a mix sound decent on NS10's, you'll have a killer sound on most home stereo's.

A while ago I had to mix a jazz production. There was this wooly sounding electric guitar and a digital piano and they were fighting each other.

So I had to EQ the problems out of both sounds and it was best done on the NS10's, a piece of cake actually. I could hear exactly what was happening on those 'white coned suckers'.

And with all due respect, I have had them all, you name it, Genelecs, KRK's Quested, Urei's and so many others. I would like to have a pair of ADAM's, but I also keep my NS10's.

Cheers and thanks for replying.
 
Regarding the B1 mic clip:

Anyone know if getting the SP shockmount fixes the problem with the plastic threads? My clip won't tighten on my stand either, and the other day the mic and clip fell off the stand (sent me a little shock to the heart) but luckily it seems to work OK, save for some scratches. It's a really annoying part to an otherwise great mic. Thx
 
yeah Kids reply really helped me with the clip sagging thing, but I dont own any high end mic stands he mentioned so I'm still having problems with the threads..one thing that did help though, was I took the tightening screw off the mic stand and that enabled me too screw the clip on as far as it would go before stripping out. it gives a little more support when you tighten it right before strippage.
 
You might try using some plumber's teflon thread tape to take up the slack. Make a couple of wraps around the boom or stand thread in the direction of tightening the bracket so that the tail end of the tape stays flat when you screw the bracket on, ie, looking at the threaded end of the boom, wrap the teflon tape clockwise. If there's not too much slack that should tighten it up enough.

Tom
 
I s'pose it's down to the user too, I mean if you're totaly use to monitoring through headphones than monitors then chances are (like using shit monitors) you get a much better feel as to what's goin on sonicly....But again, I'd still say good monitors over headphones....
 
riotshield said:
Regarding the B1 mic clip:

Anyone know if getting the SP shockmount fixes the problem with the plastic threads? My clip won't tighten on my stand either, and the other day the mic and clip fell off the stand (sent me a little shock to the heart) but luckily it seems to work OK, save for some scratches. It's a really annoying part to an otherwise great mic. Thx
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I have a pair of the SP B1 shockmounts, and they seem to fit any stand I attach them to.

Regarding the standard clip, Tomcat's suggestion about using a few wraps of teflon tape is a good one, and works well.
 
I gotta agree with Kid Klash. I have 11 stands here from cheapies to definitely not cheapies and so far the B1 shockmounts have fitted on all of them with no problems.

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Not only does the Studio Projects B1 mic clip threading slip... my plastic cap covers broke when removing them to tighten the swivel bolt. I hate cheap crap.
 
Any idea how many B1's you can buy for the price of a Neumann shockmount? :D
 
Is it more or less than shacks you can buy for the price of a house? :D
 
DJL said:
Not only does the Studio Projects B1 mic clip threading slip... my plastic cap covers broke when removing them to tighten the swivel bolt. I hate cheap crap.
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If you're such an elitist then why aren't you using a proper shock mount anyway. :rolleyes:
 
DJL said:
Not only does the Studio Projects B1 mic clip threading slip... my plastic cap covers broke when removing them to tighten the swivel bolt. I hate cheap crap.
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I thought you said you disliked the owner of PMI audio (we all know his name) so much that you sold all your Studio Projects mics? Hey - if you want a replacement cap, PM me and I'll send one of mine to you, free. I've got four of them (unbroken).

That must mean all you have remaining are BIG dollar mics, made in Europe and the U.S. (not China, Japan or Australia). Care to post any of your recordings made with your superior mics and preamps? I think many of us would like to hear how much better your recordings sound...
 
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