Studio Projects C1

[slobbermonster]

well I own a C1 and a B1 and if they sounded great they would get more use but since I use my ears and not my budget to judge, they just don't cut the mustard. I honestly wish they were great. They are mearly ok.

I've seen masters get great sound out of the doggiest of mics. That you can't get good sound out of your C1 just indicates to me that you don't know HOW.

I can get good sounds out of the c1 or b1 but I get great sounds out of my better mics. I've had all kinds of people compare the c1, b1 against other mics and no one ever pics the SP mics in blind tests. I mean Never ever ever, I've had my pro buddies listen and I've had total laymen listen and the SP mics are NEVER picked. Now the only 2 tests I did were with solo guitar and solo voice with a good singer and the SP blew chunks.

Believe me I wanted SP mics to do better, they just didn't.

And you want to know a dirty little secret? The C1 is being used in place of the Neumann in pro studios all over the country. And VERY FEW people -- including the record companies -- can tell the difference.

That's not true at least it's not true for lead vocals or critical lead instruments. How long have you been working for Studio Projects?

 

[alanhyatt]

Pepsi, Coke, or Dr. Pepper will all quench your thirst if your thirsty, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda will get you to the show on time.

What is good for the Goose, is not always good for the Gander. What you hear is different from what the other guy hears. What you have here are opinions from all sorts or people, and not one of them, including mine is more or less valid than the others.

 

[chessrock]

And you want to know a dirty little secret? The C1 is being used in place of the Neumann in pro studios all over the country. And VERY FEW people -- including the record companies -- can tell the difference.

I've never seen a single one in any professional studio I've visited. Maybe they just haven't caught on in Chicago. I mean according to you, they're all over the country. Man, I sure must be unobservant.

That's funny stuff. Keep talkin' out of yer ass.

 

[chessrock]

Pepsi, Coke, or Dr. Pepper will all quench your thirst if your thirsty, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda will get you to the show on time.

What is good for the Goose, is not always good for the Gander. What you hear is different from what the other guy hears. What you have here are opinions from all sorts or people, and not one of them, including mine is more or less valid than the others.

Oh Jesus, guys. Now look what you've done.

Now he's making his softdrink speach again. And this time he's added geese. Oh Christ on a pogo-stick. I was wondering how long it was going to take for that to happen.

 

[slobbermonster]

Oh Jesus, guys. Now look what you've done.

sort of funny how these 2 show up together don't you think?

 

[Micsales]

How the hell do you have time to do that AND manufacture mics from your barge at the same time? Hey, catch up with ya later. Maybe we could chat over some tea?

No Problem! Mr. Chessrock, as the saying goes, We manufacture the best mics in the world on our barges. As I said before, the ASM B1 mics are made in the USA or abouts for a fraction of the costs of the Behringer or Studio Projects B1 mics!! We strive to meet your goals so you can have a pro mic at a fraction of the cost of your average German mic. Remember, the German mics are just a reminder of the days of WWII. The war was won by many an American soldier and the mics of today are made by the the fine folkes in China. The war was won!!!!


Buy your ASM-B1 NOW and record your Sgt. Pepper NOW!!!!

Thanks Chessrock for being such a staunch supporter!!!!



MicSales.

 

[Micsales]

Pepsi, Coke, or Dr. Pepper will all quench your thirst if your thirsty, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda will get you to the show on time.

What is good for the Goose, is not always good for the Gander. What you hear is different from what the other guy hears. What you have here are opinions from all sorts or people, and not one of them, including mine is more or less valid than the others.

I will beat your Dr. Pepper with my ASM B-1 mic. Beats the shit out of yout B1, C1, Tb3 etc.

We are the world, we are the children.

We are the mic builders of the galaxy and beat the shit out of any SP product.





Wow.

 

[chessrock]

Wait a minute ... earlier today you were honkin' loogies inside these things. Now they're supposed to be the best thing since Telefunken or something. I'm confused.

 

[rdozz]

I own a AT4040 and can borrow a SP C1 then post a MP3 of a female singer using the mics, if anyone would like to hear the difference. I will use the highest res MP3. If anyone would find it helpful, which preamp should I use:
GR ME-1NV
RNP
SoundCraft M8 no EQ
The Brick
AW4416 pre

Let me know,
Rob

 

[Big Kenny]

It's very nice of you to offer but it wouldn't do any good. This crap goes on endlessly. The truth is they are both very nice mics and provide us with alternatives to record different sources at their best.

 

[alanhyatt]

I own a AT4040 and can borrow a SP C1 then post a MP3 of a female singer using the mics
Let me know,
Rob

If you intend to do this test, my suggestion would be a C3 or a T3 for a female voice. The C1 is better suited for male voice, and females with power vocal styles like Tina Turner...

 

[leddy]

For budget mics, I'm an Oktava fan. I own several and love them all. Has anyone compared the C1 to the MK319 around here? I have not heard the C1, but any complaints seem to be about the harshness. The MK319 is generally agreed to be a "warm" or "dark" mic. I takes EQ well to brighten it up when needed as well.

 

[ch2os7]

c1 or 4040

I don't have access to a local music store that carries Studio Projects mics. About all I have to go on is what I read on line in reviews and in forums like this. I wish people could give an opinion without hyperbole. I've become painfully aware that I can't trust the manufacturers promotional press releases. (C1000s was supposed to be an awesome mic according to akg) but its not awesome....some people on HR have even said they are awful. A lot of people are comparing the C1 to Neumann. I am skeptical about that but it doesn't matter. I'll never own a Neumann and even if I did the rest of my signal chain would still make it sound like a $200 mic and even if I had a class A signal chain, I don't know enough about how to use it to optimize it. I just need unbiased and unexaggerated info.

 

[robgb]

Now the only 2 tests I did were with solo guitar and solo voice with a good singer and the SP blew chunks.

Believe me I wanted SP mics to do better, they just didn't.


That's not true at least it's not true for lead vocals or critical lead instruments. How long have you been working for Studio Projects?

Anyone knows that there are a number of factors that go into recording solo guitar and solo voice, not just the quality of the microphone. Does the voice match the mic? Is the guitar good for recording? I'm not suggesting that the C1 is a catch-all mic that will work for every application and every singer. No mic does.

Again, just because YOU can't get a good sound out of it doesn't mean it isn't a good mic. Many other people have.

As for Studio Projects, I don't work for them or anyone affiliated with them, have never met any of them, have never even reviewed any of their products. And I'm certainly not the only one saying the C1 is a great mic.

Is it a rolls-royce? No. And I've never said that. It amazes me how upset you guys get over this stuff. To paraphrase Shakespeare, you're protesting WAY too much.

 

[robgb]

Keep talkin' out of yer ass.

LOL. The stench ain't coming from MY direction....

 

[robgb]

Oh Jesus, guys. Now look what you've done.

Now he's making his softdrink speach again. And this time he's added geese. Oh Christ on a pogo-stick. I was wondering how long it was going to take for that to happen.

Personal question: were you born an asshole or did it take practice? I mean, really, do you actually contribute anything to these forums? You certainly haven't to this thread.

It's fairly obvious by your posts that you saw a thread mentioning Studio Projects, so you swooped down and started hammering on them for no good reason other than, as far as I can tell, that you're a dick.

You've done it before and you'll probably do it again. What is this perverse little thrill you get out of attacking Studio Projects? I personally can't stand Nissans, but you don't see me hanging around the car forums attacking the Sentra everytime it's mentioned.

You're a friggin' drain on the batteries, man. Chill out.

 

[kidvybes]

I've never seen a single one in any professional studio I've visited. Maybe they just haven't caught on in Chicago. I mean according to you, they're all over the country. Man, I sure must be unobservant.

That's funny stuff. Keep talkin' out of yer ass.

I've worked in NY, Miami and Kingston, JA...I've seen C1s (and T3s) in 2 out of three of those locales (and have had requests to bring both MXL and SP mics down to Jamaica for use in the studios there)...in PRO studios...this "Chesshmuck" asshole has a demo-project studio in Chicago and chimes in here on this website everytime someone questions the quality of a Chinese manufactured mic...legit qualified engineers like Harvey Gerst are saying good things about the same mics this punk costantly slams...doesn't anyone else see the pattern...I suggest we all check out Chesshmuck's website and critique his demo tracks (none of which seemed to have been released on any major label) if for no other reason than to question his own credibility...his act seems awfully tired to me, and I've only been on this website a couple of months...and his comments, though masked in comical tone, have a underlying prejudice that's real low-class...

(talk about "talkin' out of yer ass"...the guy's studio is called "Moon Unit" and it's next to Jiffy Lube...who's talkin' outa whose ass?...)
Here's the link:
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/discography.php?aid=1298

 

[chessrock]

Oh Christ.

Now Hyatt's got his minions after me again. The Numbskull Brigade, Part II.

I find it interesting how the first response to anyone who voices a negative opinon Studio Projects is to immediately attempt to discredit them. The next step is to make sure and start a flame war and trash the thread so people will be discouraged from reading or trusting the comments.

 

[Strave]

While I can honestly say that chessrock seems like a dick at times, attacking his stuff is pretty uncalled for. Then again, he attacked robgb's ears or something so maybe I shouldn't be taking sides. In any event, this is absolutely ridiculous. The mic has a reputation for being decent and for $150-$200 most people can say it's a solid purchase. Now stop being jerks.

 

[chessrock]

Then again, he attacked robgb's ears or something ...

No, I said he was talkin' outta' his aaassss.

There's a difference. I was attacking the numbskull's mouth. Not his ears.