TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2335666678#ebayphotohosting
Not a bad price actually.
Not a bad price actually.
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gordone
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I told my wife about that when I first saw the ad. Tha seems really cheap. You would think that either the facility or the equipment would be worth $650K, but to get both, wow! Unless I'm missing something, like you just get the rights to use the equipment, and you still have to pay the lease on the building (which could be $$$$) If we hadn't just purchased our first home (of which the wife let me have one bedroom to setup my rig), I'd be all over that. We could sleep in the live room!
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MikeA
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I have been down to this studio, not inside but to the doors on a Sunday peering in and this is a phenomonal piece of history. And when they say it is right on the bank it literally is "Right On The Bank" of the river. It used to be a Naval Reserve Unit Headquarters. I'm very surprised to see it for sale. I may drive by there this weekend when I go over to Huntsville. Damn I wish I could buy that!!!!!
Other artists who have recorded there include Joe Cocker, Eddie Rabbit, Joan Baez, James Brown, Jimmy Buffet, Amazing Rythm Aces, Dr. Hook, Johhny Rivers, Oak Ridge Boys, Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana, Ronnie Milsap, Johnny "Take this job and shove it" Paycheck, Denise Lasalle, Luther Ingram, Faith Hill, including those mentioned in the eBay ad.
Here's the link to the Muscle Shoals webpage:
http://www.mssound.com/index.html
Damn I wish I could buy that!!!!!
Other artists who have recorded there include Joe Cocker, Eddie Rabbit, Joan Baez, James Brown, Jimmy Buffet, Amazing Rythm Aces, Dr. Hook, Johhny Rivers, Oak Ridge Boys, Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana, Ronnie Milsap, Johnny "Take this job and shove it" Paycheck, Denise Lasalle, Luther Ingram, Faith Hill, including those mentioned in the eBay ad.
Here's the link to the Muscle Shoals webpage:
http://www.mssound.com/index.html
Damn I wish I could buy that!!!!!
keilson
New member
does Sheffield alabama have a big music scene?
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
Those neve boards would be nice. A neve pre usually runs around $3k per channel and they have around 50 of them, lol.
keilson
New member
wow, so why isn't anybody buying it?
alien
New member
don't get your hopes up LOL!
It's been a very LONG time since a hit was ever pulled out of that studio.
The indoor parking and the undevloped space are one in the same. The Neve's are, sadly, just plain worn out although the modules would be good for spare parts and such.
The studio has been going out of business for a long while now.
This is not a sale for a prime piece of real estate with a great studio on it. It is a piece of history for sale that, very sadly enough, has been allowed to detiorate and be taken for granted while riding a reputation of early glory
Don't look in awe - look in regret that it has met such a fate.
It's been a very LONG time since a hit was ever pulled out of that studio.
The indoor parking and the undevloped space are one in the same. The Neve's are, sadly, just plain worn out although the modules would be good for spare parts and such.
The studio has been going out of business for a long while now.
This is not a sale for a prime piece of real estate with a great studio on it. It is a piece of history for sale that, very sadly enough, has been allowed to detiorate and be taken for granted while riding a reputation of early glory
Don't look in awe - look in regret that it has met such a fate.
keilson
New member
how do you know so much about it?
subtractor
New member
Have you ever been to that part of Alabama!?
They better have a red tag sale...
They better have a red tag sale...
alien
New member
I live nearby in Hunstville and am also friends with other studio owners in the Shoals area. I wish the area was as successful as it once was...I really do. It's a shame the fate many of these once proud studios have met. Big names no longer flock here to record. They go to Nashville, NY, or LA...occasionally Atlanta or southern Florida. The only reason I can think of for the recording industry's demise in this area was the move from a natural & personal feel of music to the glamour and flash of LA and the grit and grind of NY was preferrable to executives at the labels. Those became the major areas to record in I guess.
I remember recording in at least four Shoals studios as well as Jeff Cook's (of the band Alabama) studio. He removed his Neve and replaced it with a console Peavey sent him as an endorsement deal. We never went back...the mic pre's were horrid!
As far as there being alot of musicians down here, yes there are, but it's a clique really
I'm acceptive of all types of music, but this area isn't. I wish I could say it has developed it's own sound, but it hasn't. It is an area of total emulation of whatever is the fad of genre.
(For the record: I am a progressive metal guitarist/songwriter, but I grew up on Skynard, AC/DC, Dobbie Brothers, Dylan, ELP, ELO, Floyd, and many of the other great bands of the late 70's and 80's.)
Blues & classic artists all sound the same pretty much rotating around Janis Joplin and a host of 70's rock bands. The punk bands are relatively unoriginal sounding as they are trying extremely hard to reach Green Day'dum. The metal bands are either still hanging onto Pantera & Metallica's riffs or trying to be the next Limp Bizkit. R&B artists are more hip hop and the hip hop actually goes overboard in most cases. Progressive, new age, contemporary, and the likes are labels not to be displayed publicly lest one be branded an outcast LOL.
That's about 20% of the scene here. The other 80% is cover bands. If you want play to a receptive audience, you must be a cover band in this area...and you must play conevntional covers that reflect the programming of the two local radio staions.
The musicians, the radio stations, and the attitude is pretty much status quo for the most part. In the end, it's the supression of something new and original that has prbably killed off the the studios many big names called their 2nd home just a couple of decades ago
I remember recording in at least four Shoals studios as well as Jeff Cook's (of the band Alabama) studio. He removed his Neve and replaced it with a console Peavey sent him as an endorsement deal. We never went back...the mic pre's were horrid!
As far as there being alot of musicians down here, yes there are, but it's a clique really
I'm acceptive of all types of music, but this area isn't. I wish I could say it has developed it's own sound, but it hasn't. It is an area of total emulation of whatever is the fad of genre.
(For the record: I am a progressive metal guitarist/songwriter, but I grew up on Skynard, AC/DC, Dobbie Brothers, Dylan, ELP, ELO, Floyd, and many of the other great bands of the late 70's and 80's.)
Blues & classic artists all sound the same pretty much rotating around Janis Joplin and a host of 70's rock bands. The punk bands are relatively unoriginal sounding as they are trying extremely hard to reach Green Day'dum. The metal bands are either still hanging onto Pantera & Metallica's riffs or trying to be the next Limp Bizkit. R&B artists are more hip hop and the hip hop actually goes overboard in most cases. Progressive, new age, contemporary, and the likes are labels not to be displayed publicly lest one be branded an outcast LOL.
That's about 20% of the scene here. The other 80% is cover bands. If you want play to a receptive audience, you must be a cover band in this area...and you must play conevntional covers that reflect the programming of the two local radio staions.
The musicians, the radio stations, and the attitude is pretty much status quo for the most part. In the end, it's the supression of something new and original that has prbably killed off the the studios many big names called their 2nd home just a couple of decades ago
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MikeA
New member
Amen, alien, Amen. It's the same way here in Memphis. They keep talking about getting the magic back that was once here but I don't see it happening. Not that there aren't a LOT of GREAT musicians around, but something new and original? Nada.
You are right. It is a true shame that great facilities like Muscle Shoals are going away. I sure wish there was some way to keep them going. The price of new technology though just smashes what a Neve and Studer setup costs. Not to mention the cost of feeding a 24 track.
The times, they are achangin' (Heavy Heavy sigh)
You are right. It is a true shame that great facilities like Muscle Shoals are going away. I sure wish there was some way to keep them going. The price of new technology though just smashes what a Neve and Studer setup costs. Not to mention the cost of feeding a 24 track.
The times, they are achangin' (Heavy Heavy sigh)
alien
New member
yeah
I had my own business rnning live sound for bands.
They wanted $150 a night for a triamped system that had EVM 2X15 w/ full diffraction horn tops, PAS 2X18 subs, four separate monitor mixes, two effects sends, full drum mic'ing, the ability to record a performance and it sound good both on the tape and the front end, and I had lights too.
My bottom line price was $275 a night, which was a steal considering I had no Peavey, Alesis, or Behringer gear. Tt was all topline. Amps were AB & Crown. 24X8 100' snake even.
Lights were extra - btw, the whole lighting rig is up for sale. I've already dumped the live rig.
No way I was gonna break my back for $150 a night. Start loading up the truck at 4pm, setting up by 6, soundcheck at 7:30, band plays from 9 to 1:30am, tear down, load up the truck, unpack the truck, and get done about 4:00am at the earliest. $12.50 and hour...that's local IATSE rates and without the overtime. Not even worth it lol.
Ah well, there's always Europe
I had my own business rnning live sound for bands.
They wanted $150 a night for a triamped system that had EVM 2X15 w/ full diffraction horn tops, PAS 2X18 subs, four separate monitor mixes, two effects sends, full drum mic'ing, the ability to record a performance and it sound good both on the tape and the front end, and I had lights too.
My bottom line price was $275 a night, which was a steal considering I had no Peavey, Alesis, or Behringer gear. Tt was all topline. Amps were AB & Crown. 24X8 100' snake even.
Lights were extra - btw, the whole lighting rig is up for sale. I've already dumped the live rig.
No way I was gonna break my back for $150 a night. Start loading up the truck at 4pm, setting up by 6, soundcheck at 7:30, band plays from 9 to 1:30am, tear down, load up the truck, unpack the truck, and get done about 4:00am at the earliest. $12.50 and hour...that's local IATSE rates and without the overtime. Not even worth it lol.
Ah well, there's always Europe
frederic
New member
$12.50 is what the average McDonalds new-hire gets in NYC
alien
New member
Welcome to Alabama.....sigh
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
alien said:yeah
I had my own business rnning live sound for bands.
They wanted $150 a night for a triamped system that had EVM 2X15 w/ full diffraction horn tops, PAS 2X18 subs, four separate monitor mixes, two effects sends, full drum mic'ing, the ability to record a performance and it sound good both on the tape and the front end, and I had lights too.
My bottom line price was $275 a night, which was a steal considering I had no Peavey, Alesis, or Behringer gear. Tt was all topline. Amps were AB & Crown. 24X8 100' snake even.
Lights were extra - btw, the whole lighting rig is up for sale. I've already dumped the live rig.
No way I was gonna break my back for $150 a night. Start loading up the truck at 4pm, setting up by 6, soundcheck at 7:30, band plays from 9 to 1:30am, tear down, load up the truck, unpack the truck, and get done about 4:00am at the earliest. $12.50 and hour...that's local IATSE rates and without the overtime. Not even worth it lol.
Ah well, there's always Europe
Sounds familliar. I don't understand how live sound companies stay in business doing rock shows. I worked for a corporate AV company and we would will bill out $2000 just to setup a projector, screen, VCR and a wireless lav mic, lol.