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marshall.amps
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well its the best i have ever owned or played
Anfontan
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Mark7 said:
Absolutely! Thats what I love about the layout of a 2 humbucker Gibson setup, a flick of that toggle switch and you can blast out your leads. I would always use the middle position for rhythm, with the lead pickup on max and the rhythm set to about 3, it always worked out fine, especially when I was the only guitarist and had to make a quick change for the solos!
Buck62
噛んでくれ
Tbone100 said:
That's only true for people who are too young or too stupid to know any better.
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Elton Bear
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TragikRemix said:
I AM going to say different - usually I'd agree with you, and of course they don't measure up to decent Fenders, but I've got a '96 Squire Strat that is better built than a whole bunch of mexican Fenders I've played. The pickups weren't fantastic, but I ripped them out and put EMGs in it anyway.
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sajs
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Elton Bear said:Chuck the Gretsch, keep the rics, and beat singers with the teles
I love my Rics but if I had to choose one, I would keep my 1964 Gretsch Tennessean without question. Great for rhythms or leads.
dave.....
New member
les paul or strat ??
i have a les paul custom and a re issue strat w/ pickups that i had custom made for a more vintage sound... 9 out of 10 times i grab the les paul..actualy i sleep w/ the les paul..... tried to sleep w/ the strat... got the whammy bar in the nuts.....ist all a mater of personal preference... i prefer the les paul.. but thats just me......
i have a les paul custom and a re issue strat w/ pickups that i had custom made for a more vintage sound... 9 out of 10 times i grab the les paul..actualy i sleep w/ the les paul..... tried to sleep w/ the strat... got the whammy bar in the nuts.....ist all a mater of personal preference... i prefer the les paul.. but thats just me......
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
Evidently, I don't even own a "real" guitar so I suppose I shouldn't comment.....
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
marshall.amps said:
im sorry for you.
i have a bunch of low end geetars, my first guitar, which has no name, a fernandez strat, a steinberger spirit GT-PRO, a fender (mexi), and a jay turser 6/12 double neck.
the first two suck. terribly..
the steinberger is really cool, paid $400 for it, but its not really all that good. the tremolo is really hard, (shouldnt be with a real one) and the pickups are so-so.
the mexican strat is my favorite, also paid $400, its the splatter-painted design. they are iffy though, i happened to catch a good one.
the jay turser double neck is ok.i got it just cause it is a double neck and looks really close to the gibson one. really pretty, but i've had complications with it already, and i barely play it. electronics (pots, switches and wire) are crap, but the pickups themselves are OK. i've had to fix a few cold solder joints already, and like i said, i really dont play it. also, the strap button ripped out of the hole. i relocated it onto a screw that drives into the neck. all in all, OK guitar, $500. comparable to the epiphone for $900, really no difference. i was thinking about replacing the pickups with gibson ones, but that would be $400 in pickups on a $500 guitar..
i've played a squire that blew my mind, it belonged to one of the teachers at my store. pin straight neck and awesome action. he paid $90 for it used, but it was really a nice guitar.
must have been made on a wendsday.
all of the guitars in my store really arent great. all low end-made in china. a couple of the pricier guitars play OK, but nothing amazing.
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
Buck62 said:
agree.
a PRS isnt a strat or a les paul. they are one of the best guitar makers in the world.
Jackson/Ibanez arent either. i dont like them, but they are huge companies.
what about acoustics?
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SpotlightKid83
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I have played all kinds of guitars, but I think the Strat is the more versatile one.
I don't like the way my arm rests on the archtops, and I wouldn't be able to live without a whammy bar. Besides that, I play a lot with the pickup selector, changing from one to the other in the middle of a solo, depending on where in the neck I'm playing, and the one in the Strat is in a way more convenient place for that. And the higher frets are hard to reach in the Les Paul.
I disconnect the tone controls so that the pickup sounds pure, I don't play with stock pickups, I have Seymour Duncan Hot Rails in one, Texas Specials in another one, and HS-3 (bridge) and Virtual Vintage 2.1 (neck) on the other one. (All bridge and neck, I never use the middle pickup).
I love the original synchronized tremolo, is the most extreme one. The Floyd Rose sounds too clean for me, plus I'd never use a locking nut.
Anyway, I'd love to have a Les Paul some day, I've used a couple for recording, PRS too, they have their place in my heart, but for solos and live it will always be a Strat.
I don't like the way my arm rests on the archtops, and I wouldn't be able to live without a whammy bar. Besides that, I play a lot with the pickup selector, changing from one to the other in the middle of a solo, depending on where in the neck I'm playing, and the one in the Strat is in a way more convenient place for that. And the higher frets are hard to reach in the Les Paul.
I disconnect the tone controls so that the pickup sounds pure, I don't play with stock pickups, I have Seymour Duncan Hot Rails in one, Texas Specials in another one, and HS-3 (bridge) and Virtual Vintage 2.1 (neck) on the other one. (All bridge and neck, I never use the middle pickup).
I love the original synchronized tremolo, is the most extreme one. The Floyd Rose sounds too clean for me, plus I'd never use a locking nut.
Anyway, I'd love to have a Les Paul some day, I've used a couple for recording, PRS too, they have their place in my heart, but for solos and live it will always be a Strat.
cephus
Slow Children Playing
Buck62 said:
Nice.
It has occurred to me you'd have to be pretty stupid to not see the two camps and how pretty much every guitar could fit into one of those categories.
For the sake of this discussion, a PRS is so very much a les paul and an Ibanez JEM is so obviously a strat. Are you guys just being cute or is this a cry for help? gretsch? I'd say most are more les paul than strat, wouldn't you?
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
cephus said:
no. absolutley not. ibanez are not strats.
beezelbubba
Shitty Buddhist
A Squire 2 strat I put EMGs in was my main axe for years!I really enjoyed that guitar!TragikRemix said:
Some of us have more talent than money!
cephus
Slow Children Playing
TragikRemix said:
Oh. I didn't realize you were a guitar expert since you work in a music store and all.
Just how is a strat so different from any other asymetric double cutaway, bolt on neck with 6 tuners on one side, trem-equipped guitar with three pickups on the pickguard and mounted as one assembly?
You think it makes you a genius because you can point out the superficial differences? I think it makes you a genius to see the lineage is the same.
I added the ascii smileys to keep from being perceived as nasty. I know you're full of shit, but I'm trying to be polite about it.
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
cephus said:Oh. I didn't realize you were a guitar expert since you work in a music store and all.
Just how is a strat so different from any other asymetric double cutaway, bolt on neck with 6 tuners on one side, trem-equipped guitar with three pickups on the pickguard and mounted as one assembly?
You think it makes you a genius because you can point out the superficial differences? I think it makes you a genius to see the lineage is the same.
I added the ascii smileys to keep from being perceived as nasty. I know you're full of shit, but I'm trying to be polite about it.
well, you are being percieved as a shithead. heres your ascii smileys to keep it from me looking like a dick
have you ever played a PRS?
go to guitar center and play all the guitars you can before they kick you out, and then tell me that an ibanez and a strat are the same.
tell me a les paul and a prs are the same.
i have played more guitars than i want to count.
so an ibanez neck feels just like a fender's huh? my ass.
a prs neck feels like a 50's les paul? not.
tuners? what about them? inline, 3x3, locking, reverse?
have you ever built a guitar? i bet you have, since you are the critical expert here.
you are too shallow to realize the differences that you consider 'superficial' are what makes a guitar.
cephus
Slow Children Playing
Yes. I built the guitar that I play out with and even though it looks like a pickle barrel lid I can tell that it's in essence a strat.
I know that it seems possible to you that you could know more about guitars than someone who has been playing for 25 years. But it really isn't.
Paint jobs and knobs don't distract me from the components that these guitars are made of. Just because the Ibanez' neck is 3/4" wider and has 24 frets or whatever doesn't discount the fact that it is a mere pushboutton of the CNC away from being a strat knock-off.
A (real) PRS is a set neck, contour top piece of furniture, just like a les paul. OK, they put strat-esque trems on them, too. I know that you purists can tell the difference, but frankly, I don't think it matters. If a guy goes into the store looking for a strat, you might be able to talk him into the Ibanez, but he ain't gonna think that PRS is the same thing.
The thread asks the participant to entertain the idea that guitars, just like pieces of music, are all derivative. Not point out "Well, my Ibanez has a skateboard sticker on it and a monkey grip so it is totally not the same as a fender." Get over yourself. You aren't an expert because you have a shitty job where you can sit around reading guitar brochures all day.
I know that it seems possible to you that you could know more about guitars than someone who has been playing for 25 years. But it really isn't.
Paint jobs and knobs don't distract me from the components that these guitars are made of. Just because the Ibanez' neck is 3/4" wider and has 24 frets or whatever doesn't discount the fact that it is a mere pushboutton of the CNC away from being a strat knock-off.
A (real) PRS is a set neck, contour top piece of furniture, just like a les paul. OK, they put strat-esque trems on them, too. I know that you purists can tell the difference, but frankly, I don't think it matters. If a guy goes into the store looking for a strat, you might be able to talk him into the Ibanez, but he ain't gonna think that PRS is the same thing.
The thread asks the participant to entertain the idea that guitars, just like pieces of music, are all derivative. Not point out "Well, my Ibanez has a skateboard sticker on it and a monkey grip so it is totally not the same as a fender." Get over yourself. You aren't an expert because you have a shitty job where you can sit around reading guitar brochures all day.
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
i love my job, bro.
and we dont have brochures cause we're ghetto.
like i said, its the little things that make a guitar.
i just dont get along with you i guess.
and we dont have brochures cause we're ghetto.
like i said, its the little things that make a guitar.
i just dont get along with you i guess.
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ggunn
Crystal Flavolian
In my opinion, just about every electric guitar I have ever seen is either:
1) Derivative of Gibson design(s), e.g. the Les Paul
2) Derivative of Fender design(s), e.g. the Stratocaster
or
3) Trying to be both (but usually ends up not doing either very well)
1) Derivative of Gibson design(s), e.g. the Les Paul
2) Derivative of Fender design(s), e.g. the Stratocaster
or
3) Trying to be both (but usually ends up not doing either very well)
true-eurt
Maneater
I am a faux guitar owner~!! 
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
I don't understand this thread anymore.
I can clearly understand how the design of most guitars is derived from either a strat or a les paul. However I think there are plenty of guitars that are firmly in between the two. What does that mean exactly?
What do you call a double cutaway assymetrical guitar, with a bound ebony fretboard and two humbuckers. Okay, so it's shaped somewhat like a strat, sure. But it sounds more like a les paul. This is the only type of guitar that I'm really comfortable with. I don't like the sound of a strat, and I don't like the design or feel of a les paul. Can't we at least acknowledge that there is clearly an identity to the guitar in the middle ground? Sure you can give a nod to a strat for the body design and a les paul for the electronics...so what? You don't have to decide between either a strat or a les paul if you don't really like either one.
I can clearly understand how the design of most guitars is derived from either a strat or a les paul. However I think there are plenty of guitars that are firmly in between the two. What does that mean exactly?
What do you call a double cutaway assymetrical guitar, with a bound ebony fretboard and two humbuckers. Okay, so it's shaped somewhat like a strat, sure. But it sounds more like a les paul. This is the only type of guitar that I'm really comfortable with. I don't like the sound of a strat, and I don't like the design or feel of a les paul. Can't we at least acknowledge that there is clearly an identity to the guitar in the middle ground? Sure you can give a nod to a strat for the body design and a les paul for the electronics...so what? You don't have to decide between either a strat or a les paul if you don't really like either one.