Stereo micing preamp question/decision plan

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I'm wondering about adding a second preamp so that I can record things in stereo....Right now I have a Safesound P1 that I am trying out (thanks Warren!), using Oktava MK012, AT 4040, and SM-57 mics into a Motu 828mk2. A second mic could be another matched Oktava, or the MXL 604 on the acoustic guitar...

The SS seems to be a great value, especially in using the limiter and compressor with my vocal style (tenor), which include having my 8-year old doing a podcast. But that may not be the most important application I have....

In my small project studio (yes, I'm working on the room itself) I'm wanting to do several things, and do them well. Recording a band (we're mostly using the other guitarists Mackie Onyx) - but I want to be able to track my telecaster well on its own (for adding tracks as well as into his board) - the tone ranges from sweet to good nasty through an old Vibrolux. I also want to record with complete pristineness my 1940 Gibson acoustic ranging from jazz and country blues styles to simply doing harmonic overtone dubs...
And would like to do acoustic, almost meditative music for "healing" (being in the field myself)

So having 1 or 2 really good mic-pres seems the ticket, and having stereo seems important - now do the pres need to match?

What d'ya all think :confused:
here's some options I've lined up, kind of pricewise:

1. Use the 2 mic pres in Motu, at least they match (no votes, I'm sure)
2. The SS ($600) plus a Motu mic pre
3. Return SS and get FMR RNP/RNC rack ($680) for stereo
4. The SS plus the Rane for the second channel (+$140 = $740)
5. Add a DMP-3 ($150) for 2 matched channels, thus 3 pres ($750)
6. Return and invest in Great River mono pre ($975?) (same questions apply about how to add the second channel
7. Get 2 pairs of Safesounds ($1200)
 
My vote would be #5 plus a second Mk-012 and an additional omni capsule.
I really like the way a pair of 012s through a DMP3 sounds on acoustic anything, and you'd have a versatile range of pre's and mics to color with, with money left for other things. I'd bet the 012s/DMP3 in XY on acoustic, and the 4040/safesound on your vocs would be a great 1 take setup.
 
A mic pre I am very impressed with is the DAV BG-1, a stereo mic pre. It's a bit over $700 with import duties included (made in England). If you are willing to go up to $1,200 in price, an option I'd suggest is keeping the SafeSound and adding the BG-1.
 
RD question: MXL w/ Oktava?

What do you think about using the MXL 604 (like a 603 plus an omni head and rolloff) along with the Oktava - as a pair of SDC mics?
 
kenoflife said:
What do you think about using the MXL 604 (like a 603 plus an omni head and rolloff) along with the Oktava - as a pair of SDC mics?
I like the 603, but in a blind comparison with the Mk-012, I easily picked out the 012 as my favorite. The 603 just starts to border on strident to me. And while I don't find all that much value in paying for a matched stereo pair of the same mic, mixing the two manufacturers will take you pretty far from true stereo, so of course would using different preamps.
 
How about the black lion mod?

What do y'al think about getting the black lion modification of the Motu 828,
http://www.blacklionaudio.com/828.htm
where he would change out the micpre's there and redo the analog circuitry for $220? Might be a better bet than $170 for the DMP - eh?
 
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