speaker out to line level converter for recording?

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Hi, guys.

I'm a 49 year old just getting my 1st taste of this flash drive stuff.
I'm recently trying to start recording to my Sony W500c cd recorder, and am encountering a problem.
When recording from my cd carousel to the player, life is good, but trying to use a flash drive device into a Pioneer vsx23-thx, then out to the sony in, but I'm not getting any joy:(


I asked over on the AVS forums, and was told this:
"A USB device is not technically an analog OR digital source, it is a USB source. Thus, there will be no output over the analog or digital outputs on the receiver when a USB device is in use."

So....in a bid for a work-around, is there a device that will allow me to use my l/r speaker outs as an input, and give me a line level output that I can send as an analog input to my Sony cd recorder?

I use my pre-outs to an Outlaw amp for the speakers, so the regular speaker outs are sitting unused.

I'm on my 12 hr nightshift, so I'll thank any and all that reply now, and check back in later.

Disclaimer: Gunsanplanes is just a reference to my 2 hobbies, and I use it on all the forums I frequent....it's harmless. I collect and shoot firearms and build and fly rc aircraft
 
wel, that's that I guess.
Thought it was worth a try.

Thanks for the reply
 
Hold on, there. There IS such a device, and in the pro ranks, it's common as nails. It's called a DI box, and some (although not all) will have speaker-level inputs and line-level outputs- that's what you need.

Love your disclaimer, btw.:laughings:
 
a flash drive is basically the same as a hard drive. It's a computer device that accepts and sends digital signals. They, as you have found, are not analog and won't deliver audio to well, anything.

And a DI would work IF you would get audio out of the Outlaw (nice amp BTW ) but you won't. If you were getting audio out of the Outlaw then you could record it on the Pioneer thru the tape loop which I'm assuming you've tried.
So converting speaker signal to line level's not gonna do you any good since there will BE no signal going thru those speakers ........ got it?


However ..... there is a device I'm pretty sure you have in your household. It's called a computer. Load the files from the flash into your computer and then burn an audio CD ...... there .. done!

I love RC planes man. They have this 'parade of the giants' RC event here in DeLAnd and it's freakin' amazing what some of those things can do. I personally really like the scale stuff. They had a P-51 this last even that you wouldn't be able to tell wasn't a real one if you only saw pics of it. Detailed down to the pilots feet on the rudder pedals. Awesome!
 
"However ..... there is a device I'm pretty sure you have in your household. It's called a computer. Load the files from the flash into your computer and then burn an audio CD ...... there .. done!"

This is where the whole thing started. I am finally trying computer downloads for the 1st time...just for a single song here and there that are near impossible to get on a cd. In this case ,showing my age, Those were the days by Mary Hopkin.

I bought the download from Amazon for a buck, burned it to a cd, just to have my player not recognise it, so I gave the flash drive a shot.
Maybe I just failed to burn correctly and should give that another shot.

As for the Outlaw amp, it's a 7200. I'm lovin' on it. It drives some Paradigm studio 100's and a 690 center.

I have another poker in the fire that I should think about. My Sony recorder appeared to have given up the ghost, not recognising a cd in the tray, after working so well for sitting unused for years.
I figured a repair cost would be half way or more to a new one, so I just said screw it, and went and ordered a new one.
Sony doesn't sell that anymore, so I have a Tascam cd-rw900sl cd recorder showing up this friday, and that is supposed to be a better unit with a boatload more capabilities that may give me options.
I'll need to check it out further once it shows.
As for the Sony, as an afterthought, I blasted some compressed air into it, and no foolin', the ol' girl worked again.
After seeing how few options there are for stand alone cd recorders, though, I decided to keep the newly ordered Tascam anyway.

I appreciate all the help/replies.

Don
 
several possibilities.
Did you make sure to burn that CD as an audio file?
If you burned it as an MP3 or other format file the CD player won't play it. It also has to be finalized. Although most burning programs automatically finalize discs, it is possible that it's set to not finalize so I would check that setting. Also ..... with blank discs that Sony is gonna require a CD that is labelled as being for Music. A regular data CD will not work for various reasons that aren't really important here.
Unless I'm mistaken the 900 is gonna require music CD's too. I'm not 100% positive about that since some new and expensive (like that 900) will accept non -music CDs nowadays.
I'm a decade older than you so this stuff isn't beyond a geezers' capabilities.

Nice system you've got ...... I'm a fan of Paradigms and a bit of an audiophile. I'm pretty mych into vinyl myself.
 
I got in a rush and just assumed (yeah, yeah, I know how to break down that word:rolleyes:) that he had a "real" guitar amp. Mea culpa. (I just hate the phrase "my bad.")
 
stevieb said:
I got in a rush and just assumed (yeah, yeah, I know how to break down that word:rolleyes:) that he had a "real" guitar amp. Mea culpa. (I just hate the phrase "my bad.")
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steve ..... the thread's not even about amps or guitar amps of any sort ..... it's about getting stereo audio files on CD.
 
Some music files you buy from retail music outlets are copy-protected.

If the file is an MP3 and you want to burn it onto an audio CD, you will need to convert it to WAV first.
 
Lt. Bob said:
Did you make sure to burn that CD as an audio file?
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I'm sure you meant "as an audio CD" (Orangebook CD-R). An audio file can be written to a CD-ROM but it won't play on most typical players.
 
Yeah, I think I botched the effort to burn to cd by doing it as it came when downloaded....as an mp3 file.
If I smarten up and learn to burn as an audio file, everything falls into place.

Time to get familiarized with a few things.

As far as my system/vynal, it's a Pioneer elite vsx23-thx receiver, an Outlaw 7200 amp, Pioneer 300 disc carousel, Technics sl1200mk2 turntable with Grado green cartridge, cambridge audio 540p pre-amp, pioneer CT-W205R dual tape deck, Sony RDC-W500C cd recorder, the paradigm studio 100's and 690 center, aim three 7 in ceiling surounds, an SVS PB12-NSN sub, an SVS pb13 ultra, and an Anti-mode8033c sub equalizer.

I had a Sony stereo in a box package for almost 19 years prior to that, and figured I'd step it up a level, so that I wouldn't have to buy anymore equipment any time soon, the Tascam cd-rw900sl not withstanding.

I may have some not bad mid-fi equipment, but I'm far from an audiophile and still haven't used things to their full potential, but I'm trying.
 
Lt. Bob said:
steve ..... the thread's not even about amps or guitar amps of any sort ..... it's about getting stereo audio files on CD.
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Then I have no idea where my head was, at the time. Not like it was 3 am and I was half asleep. Wasn't trippin'. I must have been in a real rush, or something like that.

Sometimes I even amaze myself- but this time, I am NOT impressed.:o
 
stevieb said:
Then I have no idea where my head was, at the time. Not like it was 3 am and I was half asleep. Wasn't trippin'. I must have been in a real rush, or something like that.

Sometimes I even amaze myself- but this time, I am NOT impressed.:o
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happens to us all ...... half read a thread and mistake what it was about.

I did it on something last week at A&A and made myself look even dumber than usual.
 
gunsanplanes said:
Yeah, I think I botched the effort to burn to cd by doing it as it came when downloaded....as an mp3 file.
If I smarten up and learn to burn as an audio file, everything falls into place.

Time to get familiarized with a few things.

As far as my system/vynal, it's a Pioneer elite vsx23-thx receiver, an Outlaw 7200 amp, Pioneer 300 disc carousel, Technics sl1200mk2 turntable with Grado green cartridge, cambridge audio 540p pre-amp, pioneer CT-W205R dual tape deck, Sony RDC-W500C cd recorder, the paradigm studio 100's and 690 center, aim three 7 in ceiling surounds, an SVS PB12-NSN sub, an SVS pb13 ultra, and an Anti-mode8033c sub equalizer.

I had a Sony stereo in a box package for almost 19 years prior to that, and figured I'd step it up a level, so that I wouldn't have to buy anymore equipment any time soon, the Tascam cd-rw900sl not withstanding.

I may have some not bad mid-fi equipment, but I'm far from an audiophile and still haven't used things to their full potential, but I'm trying.
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nice rig you have there. As a vinyl guy the only thing there I'd ditch would be that Technics 1200 ...... a nice belt drive Rega or Music Hall for not too much would be a pretty good step up.
But, as I said, that's my particular area of interest.
I've actually been eyeing the Outlaw stuff ....... really good sound for a bargain price. And as a full time musician .... price ends up being a major factor for me.

You'll find all the help you need right here .... just post in the appropriate forums .... newbies is a safe one ...... and for the most part there's a lot of good guys here that'll help you learn everything you need to know.
 
"I've actually been eyeing the Outlaw stuff ....... really good sound for a bargain price. And as a full time musician .... price ends up being a major factor for me."

I'm almost surprised to hear anyone wanting outlaw stuff.
Although I think they're great stuff, the only thing I hear on the audio forums lately is the Emotiva fan-boi chants, but that's probably due to the price point.
My amp is $1,750, and the Emotiva stuff would be going for probably about a grand,or more,less.

I'm very appreciative of the help, even though It's made me realize that this all came about because of my lack of computer skills.
I bet that if I had known how to go through Nero, or similar, to get the mp3 download as an audio file, I'd have gotten what I wanted and never needed to be asking for help.

I'm busy today, but should have a chance to try out a new approach soon, and I will update.

I'm just set in my old ways and am being dragged kicking and screaming into the new technolgy age, and have so much to learn.

Would you believe I've never even owned a cell phone?:eek:

Oh, re the turntable: My equipment was pretty much researched to my acceptable price point vs. entry level acceptability as good stuff. I bought just high enough to be OK, without really wanting to take it much further.
My only real regret is not understanding the very real effect of room accoustics on my bass.
I've come to understand my room accoustics suck, and the layout is such that room treatments aren't really a viable option. Fortunately, the areas where my bass mostly disappears are areas I'm not standing in, and it all comes back just a handfull of feet away. That's a whole other animal to learn though.

I'm happy enough, and although I know that there are better out there, for me it would end up being a case of diminishing returns.
The old Sony complete stereo in a box was a grand back in '93, and that's less than just the cost of my center channel speaker alone.
 
gunsanplanes said:
"I've actually been eyeing the Outlaw stuff ....... really good sound for a bargain price. And as a full time musician .... price ends up being a major factor for me."

I'm almost surprised to hear anyone wanting outlaw stuff. .
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I subscribe to The Absolute Sound and Stereophile and they gave good reviews on the amp I want ... forgot the model number ....... anyway, Stereophile gave it a rave review and I kinda 'know' their reviewers by now, have bought other stuff based on them and have always totally agreed with the way they had described them.
So I trust certain writers there.
Having been a member here for 12 years, I know that audio forums aren't the best places to make buying decisions as a good portion of the members are beginners or overly opinionated a--holes.

:D
 
"So I trust certain writers there.
Having been a member here for 12 years, I know that audio forums aren't the best places to make buying decisions as a good portion of the members are beginners or overly opinionated a--holes."

I agree, but it's kind of tuff to seperate the wheat from the chaff when you're not coming from a position of knowledge and are just finding your way.

Just remember back to a day when the big world wide net didn't exist, and how hard it was to get a heads up on anything.

I'm fortunate to be able to ask of those that have been there and done that.
 
Just wanted to say thanks for pointing out what I should have already known, that I needed an audio file and an mp3 file won't work for me.
I finally got a chance to try this again, this time using Nero, and my downloaded songs succesfully burned to a cd that my player recognizes and plays.
All is well.

Now I can get those sent over to my cd recorder to burn a custom mix. Thanks for helping guide me.
 
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