Songs for critique / NoWhereRadio

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here's some advice..

you now have 4 threads on the front page.. try checking out some other music before you come in with both guns blazing.. Do you see anyone else with 4 threads going? no.

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B.SABBATH said:
here's some advice..

you now have 4 threads on the front page.. try checking out some other music before you come in with both guns blazing.. Do you see anyone else with 4 threads going? no.

:)
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Sam's awake. :)

Seriously Christopher, you'd do yourself a favor by doing other's a favor. Listen and critique. It's what makes the Clinic go around.
 
I honestly don't think anybody is pissed at you and I DO NOT want you to get a cold shoulder as you come on to this board. We welcome new musicians here.

Perhaps you should have appended to one of the threads you already had going :D

And you can delete one or more of the currently running threads you have by deleting the first post, the primary post.

What many of us here see happening many times, is a new person in the clinic hitting us with a thread that has multiple songs for review.

We are all very wary of this type of poster, because 9 times out of 10 or more ... they aren't here to learn, they are just here for a 'quickie' ... and we don wan be no hoes :D

You WILL learn MORE as to how to mix your own songs by reviewing other's work and participating in those threads.

You will especially learn lots by reviewing those posters that have very few posts to their credits, like yourself.

But you obviously have some experience, because you gotz a bunch of songs, so find a poster who has only one song, because they are the fragile musicians we really want to encourage on this board ... and yes, if it sucks, rip it apart, but be constructive ... and believe me, people will SURELY listen to you then ;) , and if it's good, give it some stars, and say what's good about the mix, learn the vocabulary of a mixing engineer, learn it and use it on the board, so other's can read your use of that vocabulary, and we can all learn.

I'm sorry your entrance to the board has been a bit troublesome, but WELCOME to this board.

I'm downloading your B-52'ish song write now, and I'll do a review for you.

Please start looking for some other to reveiw.

And if you don't really have anything to say AT ALL ... just say you liked some particular line in the piece ... or didn't ... just so they know you listened.

Peace,
Pat
 
MOSQUITO
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First Listen : (Mid Level Consumer Jam Box)

Vox is generally mixed to low, listen to the B-52's mixes, the vox is mixed way,
way, way, way out front ... big time way on top of the mix ... when I think B-52's the first
thing that comes into my mind is the lead vox, because that's the hook here.

There seems to be a flange on your vocal. The vocal is very sparse here, mix it dry and
straightforward, just like you are singing it. If you are using effects, there needs to be an artistic reason for using them, not 'jus cuz soun cool dode ... although sometimes that's valid also :D

The rythm guitar is dry, it's not 'in the same room' as the vox. I'm thinking it should be the other way around IMHO, (in my humble opinion), the vox should be dry, the rythm guitar with a bit of reverb ...

The vox is sparse, the rythm guitar is actually kind of minimalistic, the lead that occurs is very efficient, the whole song is very ... minimal. The minimal use of effects might be called for here also.

Also, we on this board want to hear YOU sing, not an effects box ... any dork can cover up his voice in layers of crap ... we want to hear the mosquito buzz :D !

And by the way ... you can sing, you sing generally in tune, and say and pronounce the words where we can understand them ... so you don't NEED to use the effects ... only to enhance your voice and here you are a 'mosquito' so what kind of effect should you use for a mosquito ... ? Not a flange.

When you mix your vox DRY and OUT FRONT, that really gives the members of the board the opportunity to give you direction on where to go with the mix ...

I like this tune, it's nice, simple, original even though you are 'copping a genre' ...
 
studioviols said:
You WILL learn MORE as to how to mix your own songs by reviewing other's work and participating in those threads.
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That can't be stressed enough. Well put.

Listened to Mosquito. It had the most interesting title.

Yeah the riffs were a little B52-ish. The riffs were cool. The song itself was pretty cool. Had a good vibe. Well played, and well sung. Your voice suits the type of song well.

A distorted guit will usually record "more distorted" than what it sounds like when you're there. I'd back off the gain a hair or two. In general the guits were a little too fuzzy and buzzy for my taste.

You have those doubled vox panned a bit. I'm a big fan of doubled vocals. I'd keep all doubled vocal parts panned in the same spot. For example, the lead might be doubled with both tracks down the center. The high harmony might be doubled with both tracks panned 30%R, all the low vox 30%L and so on. You could hear some vocal syncing issues, especially early on in the song. That can be reduced by panning them in the same spot (or retracking of course).

The lead guit at :48 was a bit on the abrasive side. Just a bit.

The vocals had just a little trouble cutting through the guitars. I'd say the guits need a little EQ cut somewhere.

Not hearing much from the bass. That sucker needs to be brought up some. But be careful to watch the muddiness when you do.
 
Hello again all,

Regarding the previous threads, I've tried to go back and delete them. Apparently, there is a time limit, which I've exceeded.

Thanks for your words of advice. I didn't mean to come across the way I did. I'm not here for a "quickie review."

As far as helping others, a quick look at the other topics on this BBS will reveal that I've tried to do so whenever I can. There are so many here who apparently do have vast experience in that area and I didn't want to come across as some kind of know-it-all newbie. I could try being a critic to someone else's recording skills or musicianship, I suppose, as long as everyone understands I'm speaking from limited experience. One thing I can't stand is when someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing tries to "help" others. I don't want to be that person.
 
One thing to keep in mind is that it's not necessary to limit comments to the technical issues ("cut half a db at 350hz", etc.).

It's *totally* helpful to me when I get general impressions of a song. Like, when people say "I don't know about that guitar solo" or "the falsetto isn't working for me" or "the drums and bass could be tighter". Or even just "your voice sounds funny." All that gives me an idea of how the tune's coming across.

Anyone who is a music fan is qualified to give criticism as far as I'm concerned. I routinely play my songs for people who *aren't* recording freaks because it's helpful to hear how NORMAL people hear music.:D They're not always as specific as we are about their complaints. But general is good too.

By the way, I'd offer some song critique along with these comments if I wasn't at work.:)

Chris
 
Hi Christopher!

Love the vocals, guitar and sound effects. The bass drum (least I think that's what it is) needs a new sound font. You're right, a real B-52's feel!

A-hem......Here's what the MP3 Clinic says..... and I quote!

"Do you have something worth listening to? Convert it to MP3, post it to your Web site, and tell us where we can listen to it!"

Helllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooo, it doesn't say one damn thing about critiquing others first, not being able to post 4 times etc. Yeah, we all know NOW...but let's ease up on the newbies! LOL

P.S. I think if the regs here what new posters to follow the "board rules" then they should bloody well post them somewhere! :)
 
Prozkgrl

Not all rules in life are written. Many are just acquired knowledge from experience and exposure.

My first post here was back in August some six short weeks ago and I made my newbie mis-steps just like everybody else does. I learned how things work here and I respected them and grew to see the merit in them.

It's basically common courtesy, like treating others as you would like to be treated yourself. If we need to post that as a rule then we are in serious trouble.

Cheers! :)
 
:D , I screwed up really good on my first few posts ! I screwed up better than any of you, could ... ever ... errrr

I just don't want people to ... uhhh ... screw up better than I did ?

:D :D :D :D :D
 
There are no rules here....except concerning Spam....

The comments above are advice....not law....

I still don't know shit about recording or mixing but, I try to throw my opinions in when they can be helpful....even if it's just from a supportive point of view....

I learn as I go from the other guys and gals here....
two years ago I was horrid at recording and mixing....






now I just suck... :D

I am improving...a little at a time...


baby steps :D
 
joro said:
There are no rules here....except concerning Pie....

The comments above are advice....not Pie....

I still don't know shit about pie or mixing batter but, I try to throw my ingredients in when they can be helpful....even if it's just from a baker's point of view....

I learn as I go from the other guys and gals here....
two years ago I was horrid at making pie....






now I just suck... :D

I am improving...a little pie at a time...


baby steps :D
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Haha ... couldn't resist! :D (sorry Joro...)

Okay, I've taken a listen to Henry The Clown. Not bad, but the vocal sounds like it could come up a lot. It is pretty buried. Also the drums sounded like they could also come up a bit. There seemed to be some panning issues during a few of the guitar breaks. They were kind of "right heavy" leaving the left channel pretty open and it sounded a bit unnatural on the phones.

Good playing and the song itself was pretty interesting lyric wise but I thought it could use something music wise, maybe a bridge or something to give it some variety, or maybe just a change in the arrangement (I did like your use of guitars on there, though)

Anyway, these are just my nitpiks, take em' for what their worth (maybe $.02) ...

Welcome to the board!

:D
 
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