Sonar 4:PE with a regular, stock soundcard

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Grey Angel said:
You mean under 100, right? :confused:
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No, he means under 10ms. In fact, under 5ms would be recommended.

That might not be achievable, depending on your system and your sound card.

Allright, I'm poking along here, looking studiously at the help file every 10 seconds; I'm looking at the TTS-1 help file, and it says that I can click the "preview" buttun to hear the sound play. I click the button, but no sound comes out.
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Explain a little better. What is it you are trying to play? Do you have any midi tracks programmed?
 
I couldn't find anything under Options--> Global or Project with a slider. Also, I'm not using a midi keyboard or anything, if that's what you were talking about...


Anyway, in TTS-1, I programmed Part 1 to play SFX->Burst Noise (just picked one randomly.). Now, in the help thing, it said I could click the little green button with the music note in it to preview the sound. I did, but no sound came out. My problem is getting an output, or something.
 
Grey Angel said:
I couldn't find anything under Options--> Global or Project with a slider. Also, I'm not using a midi keyboard or anything, if that's what you were talking about...
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Yes, the latency would come into play when you are trying to use an external midi device (e.g., keyboard) to play in real time. It won't impact your use of DXi's.

As for TTS-1, if you used the synth rack to set it up, you should have one midi track and one audio track. The output of the audio track should be set to either your sound card, or to a Master Bus (which is then output to your sound card).

Highlight the midi track, and open Piano Roll View. You can enter notes there using the pencil tool. Enter some notes, and rewind to the beginning and hit the play button. You should get sound.
 
I think I'm about to get it! :eek:

Or not....Could I email you a screen shot of what I'm looking at here, with my inputs/outputs, etc.?
 
Dude, I dont know what the hell happened, but it works now. Thanks for all the help. Wait, yeah I do: My sampling rate was only 22050.... :o


Well, sound comes out, anyway...but it's all distorted.
 
Grey Angel said:
Dude, I dont know what the hell happened, but it works now. Thanks for all the help. Wait, yeah I do: My sampling rate was only 22050.... :o


Well, sound comes out, anyway...but it's all distorted.
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Well that's a start. Now what's next?
 
dachay2tnr said:
Image is too small to see anything. :confused:
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Even after you clicked on it? Well, it doesn't really matter now, anyway; I can get sound to come out. The problem now is how it sounds. If I have the mixing latency buffer size below 10 like you said, everything plays very slow and sludgy. With it all the way to "safe", it still makes little skipping sounds. WHen I first used this program to *try* to record audio, it did the same thing. I went through and changed every little thing that it told me could possibly affect this. Nothing made it sound right...
 
Grey Angel said:
Even after you clicked on it?
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There was nothing to click on.
Grey Angel said:
Well, it doesn't really matter now, anyway; I can get sound to come out. The problem now is how it sounds. If I have the mixing latency buffer size below 10 like you said, everything plays very slow and sludgy. With it all the way to "safe", it still makes little skipping sounds. WHen I first used this program to *try* to record audio, it did the same thing. I went through and changed every little thing that it told me could possibly affect this. Nothing made it sound right...
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OK. What drivers are you using? Go to Options > Audio and click on the Advanced tab. What does it say under Driver Mode?

First try MME drivers. (You may have to reprofile the card and exit and re-enter Sonar.). Ultimately, MME drivers are not the ones you want to use, but try it as a starting point just to see if you can get things to work.

Did you tell us what sound card you are using? Let us know that, and your computer specs as well.
 
A Realtek HD...I think. As of this moment, the driver being used is MME (32-bit), but I just changed it from WDM/KS. The popping sound is gone....if it comes back, I'll let you know. Thanks a bunch for all that help, man (men) :D
 
Sorry to say it ain't over yet... MME won't give low-latency operation meaning that if you try and "play" the TTS-1 using the keyboard or whatever you have available, you will hear a delay between the time you press the key and when you hear the sound.

ASIO or WDM should give the best operation in this regard.

If you don't care about "playing" the TTS-1 in realtime, it is probably no big deal for you - if MME works, keep using it.

Ciao,

Q.
 
Grey Angel said:
A Realtek HD...I think. As of this moment, the driver being used is MME (32-bit), but I just changed it from WDM/KS. The popping sound is gone....if it comes back, I'll let you know. Thanks a bunch for all that help, man (men) :D
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Realtek HD. :eek: Is that an integrated sound card that came with your computer?

If you are serious about making and recording music, you might want to consider upgrading to a better sound card.

As Qwerty indicated, in the long run you do not want to use MME drivers. You will get better performance from ASIO or WDM. However, if they are working for you now, stay with them awhile until you get a handle on things.
 
Dudes, it's working :D. Now, if I can just figure out how to do lots of shit by myself...then I won't feel like such a helpless baby :D
 
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