Someone With surround sound, or decent knowledge

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Someone With surround sound, or decent knowledge:

Please listen to this tune and give me a good idea why the Bas and kick drum is all slammed into the back. please. tyvm

 
d(-_-)b-Phones said:
Someone With surround sound, or decent knowledge:

Please listen to this tune and give me a good idea why the Bas and kick drum is all slammed into the back. please. tyvm

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How did you rip the source material? It sounds like the center and sub info didn't fold down properly. :confused:
 
I just recorded on my Amek Tac magnum into an alesis HD24 and dumped it to Nuendo on the same PC i mixed pre mastered and uploaded it. so Im not sure i understand your question.

but that was my process, could it maybe be that i need to save it as 5.0 surround? I have never worked with that just stereo/
 
d(-_-)b-Phones said:
I just recorded on my Amek Tac magnum into an alesis HD24 and dumped it to Nuendo on the same PC i mixed pre mastered and uploaded it. so Im not sure i understand your question.

but that was my process, could it maybe be that i need to save it as 5.0 surround? I have never worked with that just stereo/
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Is this your own recording? Or did you go into your board with a DVD player to the HD24? Because if you went from the DVD player which was set up for 5.1 you'd only be transferring the left and right information, which is what it sounds like, rather than a proper folded down 5.1 mix.
 
This is my song, check it out.Recorded through 36 channel Analog console > To Alesis HD24>Sent through Hammerfall DSP in my PC w/ nuendo. I transfer mono 1-24 over to nuendo mono 1-24 then I do all my edits and effects, compressors etc. on the mono tracks and mix down to a stereo final.

On my Monitors it sounds great, when i put it in my car my 2 10's in the back is the only place where the bass and kick drum is....

:( what have i done.
 
d(-_-)b-Phones said:
This is my song, check it out.Recorded through 36 channel Analog console > To Alesis HD24>Sent through Hammerfall DSP in my PC w/ nuendo. I transfer mono 1-24 over to nuendo mono 1-24 then I do all my edits and effects, compressors etc. on the mono tracks and mix down to a stereo final.

On my Monitors it sounds great, when i put it in my car my 2 10's in the back is the only place where the bass and kick drum is....

:( what have i done.
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I'm still a little confused here, are you mixing a 5.1 session or lcrs? Are you doing a straight interleaved stereo bounce or a dolby 5.1/LCRS encoded bounce. And are you going to DVD or CD for playback in your car?

Nice tune by the way. :)
 
See i dont really understand 5.1 should i mix down to 5.1? all i do is this, I do my edits get levels right tweek the flying faders and mix to stereo.( so i mix to interleaved stereo ) no surround sound stuff at all, the main reason for me asking for someone with surround sound is that they could hear the problem where someone with a 2 speaker setup could not.

Here is somthing i thought of, everything else was panned but the bass and kick drum, would that force it to the rear? or is my stereo system in my car playing tricks on me?

could it be the mhz i used in the eqing? maybe i forced it to the rear by making the bass too bassy and the kick too boomy?

Im lost but this is somewhat the final peice in my novice knowledge. when i figure this out i will be able to work confortably in my studio after 5 months of learning. YAY!
 
i'm confused as well
why are you asking for surround sound help? it seems like you might not understand what surround sound is. mixing a song in stereo, putting it on CD, and playing it in your car....is stereo...not surround. anyone listening to your MP3 is going to hear stereo. unless you are able to encode it with a special surround sound encoder...everyone is going to hear it as stereo.
And surround sound is only going to play back on DVDs or SACDs.

...now can you rephrase your question? and if surround sound has anything to do with it.
 
Ok forget surround sound, I just wanted people with surround sound systems to listen because Im not hearing the problem on a dual monitor setup, on in my car and it has 6 speakers, So i figured if someone had a surround sound system, they could hear, understand and help me in my problem, Problem is this, Bass and kick are all in the subs, there is no bass and kick in the tweets and mids. and i dont know whyyyy,
 
d(-_-)b-Phones said:
Problem is this, Bass and kick are all in the subs, there is no bass and kick in the tweets and mids. and i dont know whyyyy,
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I thought I was kind of following you up to this point...
 
d(-_-)b-Phones said:
Ok forget surround sound, I just wanted people with surround sound systems to listen because Im not hearing the problem on a dual monitor setup, on in my car and it has 6 speakers, So i figured if someone had a surround sound system, they could hear, understand and help me in my problem, Problem is this, Bass and kick are all in the subs, there is no bass and kick in the tweets and mids. and i dont know whyyyy,
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2 channel mixes do not change when played through a surround sound system. also, more than 2 speakers, does NOT necessarily equal surround sound. to have true surround sound you need to have have 6 discrete channels (for a 5.1 system). A 2 channel CD mix is only going to play Left and Right channels. Maybe in your car you have 6 speakers...but it's probably not true surround unless you're able to decode surround sound DVDs or SACDs (which 98% of cars can't). A speaker that is behind you will have the exact same signal that the Left channel has...or vice versa with the Right channel.

the bass and kick are all in the subs probably because they are low frequency instruments. think of the lower the not the instrument plays...the bigger the speaker is required to play it back. there also might be a crossover in whatever you are playing it back through...and this is sending all of a certain frequency on the CD down to the sub. This is not a bad thing. It's what subs are for
 
i dont know a better way to explain this problem then what i have done already, when i play back on my home stereo it sounds great, PC sounds great console monitors great, car? sounds like all the lows are in the trunk ( I have 2x 10's in the back ), and the mix seems to overdriving them. like maybe its too basy or... read above.
 
Benny thanks for the info, i imagine you are right because its sounding good other than the car so maybe its ez to say that its the car and not my mix.
 
checking mixes in cars suck...but sometimes you have to do it to hear what it will sound like. first off, you're never in the sweet spot in a car, so you're biased to one side of the mix as it is.

try unhooking your subs and checking without them. i mean, do you really need two 10s in a car? Louder isn't always better, and as you have just found out...louder in certain frequencies can make a mix sound like crap. But it seems like the consumer more and more now adays don't care for quality...they just want heavy bass beats in the songs so the car can be heard a mile down the road. :rolleyes:
 
Well atleast i got 10's because i listen to alternative / rock, I dont have 12's and im not bumping rap about drugs. lol
 
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