shure sm7 - worth the bucks?

[Strave]

http://abesofmaine.com/viewproduct.asp?id=rnms1b

My bad, 120 db dynamic range... I'm not sure if that's the same as 120 db of gain.

I don't have the B version just the A. And it can drive the SM7 with the gain no higher than 12 o clock to 3 o clock so I don't know what's up with the digi pres. 66 db should be enough to get that mic heard, no problem.

 

[alecmcmahon]

http://abesofmaine.com/viewproduct.asp?id=rnms1b

My bad, 120 db dynamic range... I'm not sure if that's the same as 120 db of gain.

I don't have the B version just the A. And it can drive the SM7 with the gain no higher than 12 o clock to 3 o clock so I don't know what's up with the digi pres. 66 db should be enough to get that mic heard, no problem.

hm, i'll take your word for it... and im probably wrong with the 002 gain

digi website says :


Digi 002 Rack Specifications

A/D

Sample rate:
44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 kHz

Max Input:
Inputs 1-4 (mic): +3 dBu
Inputs 1-4 (line): +18 dBu
Inputs 5-8 (line/+4 mode): +18 dBu

Gain Range:
Inputs 1-4: Mic Setting: +18 – +65 dB; Line/DI Setting: +0 – +50 dB
Inputs 5-8: fixed +4 dBu or -10 dBV

Mic E.I.N (unweighted):
Inputs 1-4: -127 dBu @ 65 dB gain, 150 ohm source, 20 Hz – 20 kHz

THD+N @ 40 dB gain (mic input) @ 1 kHz:
Inputs 1-4: 0.004% @ 1kHz, -1dBFS after 40 dB gain

THD+N (line input): see notes 1 and 3
Inputs 1-4: 0.004% @ -3 dBFS input level (minimum gain)
Inputs 5-6: 0.002% @ -1 dBFS input level
Inputs 7-8: 0.003% @ -1 dBFS input level

Dynamic range: see notes 1 and 2
Inputs 1-4: 101 dB A-weighted, 98 dB (unweighted)
Inputs 5-8: 108 dB A-weighted, 105 dB (unweighted) see note 5
Alt Source Inputs: 99 dB A-weighted, 97 dB (unweighted)

Frequency Response: see note 3
+0.15 / -0.5 dB, 20 Hz – 20 kHz

Input Impedance:
Inputs 1-4 (XLR): 2 kohm
Inputs 1-4 (1/4"): 10 Mohm

D/A

Sample Rate:
44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 kHz

Max Output:
Main, Monitor, and Outputs 3-8: +18 dBu
Alt. -10 dBV Outputs: +4 dBV
Headphone Outputs: +15 dBu, 150 ohm load

Dynamic range: see notes 1, 3, and 4
Main Outputs: 114 dB A-weighted, 112 dB (unweighted)
Monitor Outputs: 112 dB A-weighted, 110 dB (unweighted)
Outputs 3-8: 114 dB A-weighted, 112 dB (unweighted)
Alt. -10 dBV Outputs: 98 dB A-weighted, 95 dB (unweighted)

THD+N: see notes 1, 3, and 4
Main Outputs: <0.0016% (-95 dB)
Monitor Outputs: <0.0016% (-95 dB)
Outputs 3-8: <0.0023% (-93 dB)
Alt. -10 dBV Outputs: <0.0023% (-93 dB)

Frequency Response: see note 3
+0.15 / -0.5 dB, 20 Hz – 20 kHz

Output Impedance:
50 ohms


Note 1: Measurement made using balanced connectors

Note 2: ADC measured -60 dBFS method with a gain setting such that +24 dBu = 0 dBFS at S/PDIF output

Note 3: Measured relative to level at 1 kHz

Note 4: Measured with digital input at -60 dBFS @ 1 kHz

Note 5: Measured using "+4" setting

Dimensions:
Width: 19 in / 48.26 cm
Height 3.5 in / 8.89 cm
Depth: 12.75 in / 32.39 cm
Weight: 12.13 lbs / 5.5 kg

 

[Strave]

hm, i'll take your word for it... and im probably wrong with the 002 gain

I don't doubt that you're right... I just don't know why the digi wouldn't be doing it for the mic. What do you think of the sound of the sm7 so far?

 

[zappo]

sm57 is great for snare or micing the guitar cab and is decent for vocals

 

[4-Man Takedown]

SM 7, not 57, different mic. Used a lot in broadcasting. First time I ever saw one I thought someone just made a little case around a 57.

 

[alecmcmahon]

I don't doubt that you're right... I just don't know why the digi wouldn't be doing it for the mic. What do you think of the sound of the sm7 so far?

the sound was alright from what i could hear...

i mean i had to record it in pro tools gaint at 90 %... edit the track and raise the gain via a plug in... so that kinda ruins its natural sound , making it fuzzy and what not...

 

[cominginsecond]

Why would you need a plug-in to turn up the track? Why not just normalize it?

In any case, I would get a high-gain, clean preamp to go with that SM-7. I would consider the DMP3 to be the bare minimum to drive that thing.

I love my SM-7, btw. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

 

[alecmcmahon]

Why would you need a plug-in to turn up the track? Why not just normalize it?

In any case, I would get a high-gain, clean preamp to go with that SM-7. I would consider the DMP3 to be the bare minimum to drive that thing.

I love my SM-7, btw. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

i didnt mean a plug in, i meant im raising the gain via the ' gain raiser ' in protools...


the dmp3 eh ? how much louder is the dmp3 over my 002 pres ?

 

[darnold]

Depends on what you need and what your looking for. I think im going to pick one up myself in a few weeks. At least im assuming you do mean the SM7 and not the SM57.

Danny

 

[alecmcmahon]

Depends on what you need and what your looking for. I think im going to pick one up myself in a few weeks. At least im assuming you do mean the SM7 and not the SM57.

Danny

.........yes, i mean the SM-7, its what the whole topic has been about, and its main use would probably be male vocals, i just need to find out which preamp can acomidate for the gobs of gain it requires.

 

[cominginsecond]

i didnt mean a plug in, i meant im raising the gain via the ' gain raiser ' in protools...

Why would that make the tone fuzzy?

Anyway, the DMP3 worked great with my SM7. So does my RNP and my Summit Audio 2BA-221.

 

[Alexi]

hi there,

i think the sm 7 was the main vocal mic on the first mars volta, the last chilli peppers and the last metallica record.

i guess it matches very well with an API 512 or some neveish kind of pre.

cheers

 

[Quantagee]

I think the Shure SM57 is one of the best mics out there. I have 7 in all and I only buy them used. I pick them for the dents they have in the screens. I have a theory that when a screen gets dented, it creates a "sonic" signature. All of my 57s sound diferent. I am currently collecting only dented 57s so I can have a mic cabinet that contains all the color and warmth that I need.

Anyway, my pawnshop finds these treasures and saves them for me only. He is my friend.

 

[alecmcmahon]

I think the Shure SM57 is one of the best mics out there. I have 7 in all and I only buy them used. I pick them for the dents they have in the screens. I have a theory that when a screen gets dented, it creates a "sonic" signature. All of my 57s sound diferent. I am currently collecting only dented 57s so I can have a mic cabinet that contains all the color and warmth that I need.

Anyway, my pawnshop finds these treasures and saves them for me only. He is my friend.

the 57 IS a good mic, but we're talking about the SHURE SM7

this mic:

i think i'll try this mic with the dmp3, hopefully it has the juice i need... anybody selling one for cheap by chance????

 

[cominginsecond]

the 57 IS a good mic, but we're talking about the SHURE SM7

this mic:

i think i'll try this mic with the dmp3, hopefully it has the juice i need... anybody selling one for cheap by chance????

Quantegee is the new Walters (i.e., a joke).

 

[junplugged]

is it really worth it to have an sm7 that now he has to get another preamp? for $350 and a preamp for $150 you could have an at4050, or lots of other awesome condensor mics. Or even a cheap condensor or even tube with tons of gain so that you would never even reach the max on the pre and hear any of the rush noise. Could have a Shure ksm, an AT, or even some MXL or God forbid, a Nady, or SP, or Berry, and on and on.

every so often I go back and fire up a dynamic mic for vocal or guitar and it's boomy and muddy. But I have a permanent sm57 on my snare with a lot of gain, of course.

Just wondering what was the original reasoning for the sm7?

Of couse, I'd like one too, but I'd like one of everything, maybe you already had a full mic locker?

 

[Strave]

The SM7 is a great mic... sometimes the best mic for rock vocals out of any budget. And the $315 it costs new is like nothing in the scope of things. It is great on a bunch of other sources as well. That's why people buy it... if his preamp can't handle the SM7 it's a good idea to spend the dough to upgrade it anyways.

 

[hognogger]

I think the Shure SM57 is one of the best mics out there. I have 7 in all and I only buy them used. I pick them for the dents they have in the screens. I have a theory that when a screen gets dented, it creates a "sonic" signature. All of my 57s sound diferent. I am currently collecting only dented 57s so I can have a mic cabinet that contains all the color and warmth that I need.

Anyway, my pawnshop finds these treasures and saves them for me only. He is my friend.

This guy is so funny. Love his work...

 

[JazzMang]

and he is now banned

 

[junplugged]

He's banned? I wonder what happened.