Second Mix (New to mixing, thirteen years old)

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I'm thirteen years old-this is my second mix. It's a cover of 'Good Girls Go Bad,' originally performed by Cobra Starship. I'd appreciate some feedback. Thanks.

I'd also like to thank you all in advance for all the crap I know I'm about to get for using auto-tune--especially the fact I used the gay underwater robot auto tune. But I like it.(:

Good Girls Go Bad
 
Not bad for a rookie engineer, dude. Work on the power in the growls... Your drums sound really, really flat, too. Keep workin' at it!
 
not bad at all...you really need to mix around your drums though, they drive this kind of track...the vocals are too loud bring em down and with that kind of guitar/synth much sure you are cutting some the mids to give everything room
 
Autotune? You mean your voice doesn't do that naturally? :eek: JK, hey man, not bad for your second attempt. Yea, the drums need work, I think. I mean if you want that weak pop sound, then no, but I think hard drums sound good in any genre. I'm most impressed that you stuck with posting here at HR - I read your last post and you got seriously trashed by some people :o, but you came back. I admire that a lot.
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maximusbs said:
Autotune? You mean your voice doesn't do that naturally? :eek: JK, hey man, not bad for your second attempt. Yea, the drums need work, I think. I mean if you want that weak pop sound, then no, but I think hard drums sound good in any genre. I'm most impressed that you stuck with posting here at HR - I read your last post and you got seriously trashed by some people :o, but you came back. I admire that a lot.
:D:cool:
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lol...I think you're probably referring to a comment I made. I said something like, "Your dad should have shown you how to throw a baseball, because you're horrible at this."

I don't think it hurt his feelings too bad, because I'm his dad. :D

Thank you guys for helping him out. I honestly had very little to do with this one. The more specific you can get, the better. It's just nice to see people treating the next generation well.
 
Oh, and not ONE person neg repped me for making that horrible comment in his last thread. I was sort of disappointed in you guys, lol.
 
chrisharris said:
Thank you guys for helping him out. I honestly had very little to do with this one. The more specific you can get, the better. It's just nice to see people treating the next generation well.
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its helps if theyre half decent :)

hey wafflepong this is how Ive pretty much always approached mixing, well once I learned to mix half decently anyway lol...I do mix electronica but I can apply it to other genres..its pretty basic but is a good sort of rule of thumb to start with

to begin with bring your kick up to a -12dbs level (try to keep the entire mix around this)

Then bring the bass up to match this....these will drive the track, use the volume and EQ to get their relationship tight...then bring up the rest of the drums.

Keep the snare pretty much centre but spread the hats and cymbals out..think of how the drum kit looks, its all around the 10 o clock to 2 spread. Pan like this

You can either bring the vocals in now or the rest makes no difference..remember the guitars can be spread out..rather than duplicating the guits, retrack them and layer it out..Ive heard normal records that actually had 14 layers of acoustic guitar!..most in here have four or five..think about that stage again...is the guitarist and keyboard player standing right next to the singer or are they spread out?

If a frequency is on top of another then try a bit of EQ..if its still on top of each other a little delay or reverb will give it space

but dont do anything unless you need to (very important)

watch the volume level, fader creep is common, rather than boost an instrument, bring another down..just dont touch the bass and kick relationship..thats your rock

and remember one project is merely a learning tool for the next...dont get hung up on making your last song the best in the world...sometimes its best just to leave it, you can always revisit it if you still think its worth it
 
chrisharris said:
Oh, and not ONE person neg repped me for making that horrible comment in his last thread. I was sort of disappointed in you guys, lol.
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Yea, I should have! But, then I'd have revealed myself to be a bigger idiot than I already am! I didn't make that connection when I read the "thanks Dad" part.....Duhh. Seriously though, he's got some monster talent for 13 if he's doing all this stuff himself!

You are brave, letting him lurk around this place though...have you seen that 'kcearl' guy around here? ... he was a bit banned and a does that rave music :eek: ...tsk...tsk
 
kcearl said:
not bad at all...you really need to mix around your drums though, they drive this kind of track...the vocals are too loud bring em down and with that kind of guitar/synth much sure you are cutting some the mids to give everything room
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I'll note that. Thanks man.
 
maximusbs said:
Autotune? You mean your voice doesn't do that naturally? :eek: JK, hey man, not bad for your second attempt. Yea, the drums need work, I think. I mean if you want that weak pop sound, then no, but I think hard drums sound good in any genre. I'm most impressed that you stuck with posting here at HR - I read your last post and you got seriously trashed by some people :o, but you came back. I admire that a lot.
:D:cool:
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Thanks man! I agree that the drums could be harder. Haha.
 
kcearl said:
its helps if theyre half decent :)

hey wafflepong this is how Ive pretty much always approached mixing, well once I learned to mix half decently anyway lol...I do mix electronica but I can apply it to other genres..its pretty basic but is a good sort of rule of thumb to start with

to begin with bring your kick up to a -12dbs level (try to keep the entire mix around this)

Then bring the bass up to match this....these will drive the track, use the volume and EQ to get their relationship tight...then bring up the rest of the drums.

Keep the snare pretty much centre but spread the hats and cymbals out..think of how the drum kit looks, its all around the 10 o clock to 2 spread. Pan like this

You can either bring the vocals in now or the rest makes no difference..remember the guitars can be spread out..rather than duplicating the guits, retrack them and layer it out..Ive heard normal records that actually had 14 layers of acoustic guitar!..most in here have four or five..think about that stage again...is the guitarist and keyboard player standing right next to the singer or are they spread out?

If a frequency is on top of another then try a bit of EQ..if its still on top of each other a little delay or reverb will give it space

but dont do anything unless you need to (very important)

watch the volume level, fader creep is common, rather than boost an instrument, bring another down..just dont touch the bass and kick relationship..thats your rock

and remember one project is merely a learning tool for the next...dont get hung up on making your last song the best in the world...sometimes its best just to leave it, you can always revisit it if you still think its worth it
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Thanks so much for the information and feedback man!
 
I want to clear the reason why I don't like the autotune effect. First, it is used on everything in the modern pop scene, that I do think is overkill. Second,it is used on every freakin' video from someone like Charles Barkley to Obama and that it is too much to handle. If it weren't for the fact that too many people took this effect and put it on everything that had someone famous in it, I probably wouldn't care as much.

That being said I think this is a pretty good tune. I just hope it isn't my girl that you are making go bad. ;) Or else I will get :mad:
 
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