SE2200 vs SP B1 please don't hurt me

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Hey Noise, the SE is a nice mic and very well built, I think they do a 7 day trail period. Let your ears decide, I love mine
 
alanhyatt said:
85% of the faults come from the USA. In the EU we get almost none, so the numbers tell a very different story than HR has to offer.
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I bet the numbers show you sell more mics to kids in the USA.
 
Re: AN APOLOGY TO ALAN

noisedude said:

i also mentioned your 'legendary customer service'. i don't think you've answered my question on its extension to the UK but i appreciate now that i probably wouldn't need it anyway (unlike with my behringer pieces, which have all been sent back/replaced at some point - you can't blame me for being cautious!).

(chess, i'm not sucking up. just being frank like you!)
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Noisedude, I took nothing about your post as offensive. What bothered me was what you said, which was, "The problem was with the QC concerns mentioned on this site. As we have no QC issues, I thought it needed addressing.


Now, to answer your question. We have an office in Torquay, Devon. We stock all kinds of parts and spares, so the service there, is the same as the USA. As long as I know about, I will make sure that when it comes to service, it is taken care of, no matter what country it is, as fast as I can. My position is to be successful you have to sevice people with the same kind of energy you sold them. While I do not directly sell to my customers, I make it my business to be sure that they are serviced properly when needed.

Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
 
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chessrock said:
Somehow I don't figure Alan to be the type to snoop around or plant double-agents at his competitor's facilities in order to get QC and return figures. :D Doesn't he have mics to sell and people to sue? I could be wrong, though.
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You see, it is exactly these kinds of remarks that makes you and I have issues. Even with smiley face in your post, I don't find the remark funny because to me, I think you have two agenda's. One to try and be funny, and two, hide behind the smiley face to say what you really mean.

You have no idea what my relationship is with other mic companies. I have very good friends in many mic companies where we share information. As a good businessman, I make it a point to know what my competitors are doing!

Then, out of the blue you have to throw a dig about a lawsuit which has nothing to do with anything in this thread. My point is, if you wanted to end this problem we seem to have, you would have left out the dig, but it seems you made sure you got it in.

You sure post differently here on HR than you do as Moon Unit at Studio Forums. As a reviewer for them at Studio Forums, you should know that you should research your information before blurting it out.

I may be sensitive about your posts Chessrock, but at the same time, I do not think I am mistaken about them. So, why not say your sorry to me now for those remarks, and maybe we can move forward from there and try and find a more common ground for 2004.

Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
 
DJL said:
I bet the numbers show you sell more mics to kids in the USA.
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As opposed to adults in Europe? Meaning that kids treat their stuff like crap, and adults use it more responsibly?

I'd agree.
 
that makes sense, doc. it's inevitable that cheap gear is handled with less care than expensive stuff. it's my theory about guitars. buy a yamaha APX5 or summat, and play it for the first few days you own it, then drift off it. buy a taylor and you're still playing it every day in a year.


Alan, now that I know that i will speed the purchasing of one of your fine products!! i hope your office isn't next door to Fawlty Towers in Torquay....!

I almost ordered a B1 out of decency earlier but then i remembered that i have utility bills due this week (not to mention university fees)...seriously though, whilst HR.com is clearly flawed it's true to say i would not have heard of your mics unless i stumbled on here. i don't hang around on many other websites so i don't know your legal situation or whatever.....and to be honest don't really care. as long as the people in the factory in china get a decent wage i'm happy. on this criterion i don't buy nike, gap, nestlé or esso so i take it serious.
 
I doubt Fawlty Towers went out in the USA.... so only we'd understand :D
 
noisedude said:
Alan, now that I know that i will speed the purchasing of one of your fine products!!

I almost ordered a B1 out of decency earlier but then i remembered that i have utility bills due this week (not to mention university fees)...
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actually, you know what would be amazing PR for Alan? He could send me a B1 to try for free....and if I liked it, I'd buy another one! I'm sure I'd like it and sing the praises of his company always, and I'd get a pair of B1s for the price of one! Genius!!

Alan, if you fancy it, no really, PM it over this way and let's do this thing!

Of course, if you don't, I'll be forced to buy one. Which kinda reduces your gain in the exercise. :( :rolleyes:
 
mrface2112 said:
posted by alan hyatt:
<<I simply got the mic back and fixed or replaced it...End of Story.>>

posted by DJL:
<<I also agree with crazydoc that PMI's customer service is good.>>



these two agreed on something relating to PMI and SP. i'm gonna go lie down now. :D


wade

PS--IMO, it is their exceptional customer service that sets SP apart from their immediate competitors. they all have some usable mics......not all of them stand behind their gear like this. thumbs up.
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:D LMFAO!!! :D

Wonderful news!!!
 
noisedude said:
actually, you know what would be amazing PR for Alan? He could send me a B1 to try for free....and if I liked it, I'd buy another one! I'm sure I'd like it and sing the praises of his company always, and I'd get a pair of B1s for the price of one! Genius!!

Alan, if you fancy it, no really, PM it over this way and let's do this thing!

Of course, if you don't, I'll be forced to buy one. Which kinda reduces your gain in the exercise. :( :rolleyes:
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Sorry to butt in here, but why don't you just get off the pot and buy two B1s? I mean, my god... they only cost $80 stateside, and they're one of the most amazing deals out there IMHO.

I've had my pair for a little over a year, and I've really been pleased with them. I've used them on acoustic and electric guitars and an acoustic bass, overheads, various vocals, and various sampling jobs, and was really pleased with the way they've captured the sound.

I used them last August for a stereo recording of a 60's garage band reunion from the pacific northwest called "the WAYDS". The B1s were arranged in a wide stereo pair in front of the band; they went into an ART DUAL MP stereo mic preamp, which went directly into a TASCAM DA-30mkII DAT recorder. They did a great job of capturing the two drummers, electric bass, digital piano (two players), two (electric and electrified acoustic) guitars, tamborine and three vocalists, all going off at the same time, outdoors, in front of 100 people. We used the shockmounts and windscreens too because of a slight breeze. The audio sounds remarkably realistic, detailed and clean. Even the audience noise sounds three-dimensional. The tracks were used to create a double CD of the live music for the band members, and also for the audio tracks for the video shoot that was used to create a "rockumentary" DVD about the band reunion, also as a keepsake for the band members, families and friends. Everyone (including me) was knocked out by what these two $80 SP B1s captured. ;)
 
chill out kid, as i've said i'm going to get a B1 and see what i like the most of what i've got then, and add a second of that mic. but i had enough money only for one, and i bought the one i could go and listen to, look at and take back to the shop if it died. alan's since pointed out that that wouldn't have been an issue, i just didn't know enough about PMI in the UK.

i'm just trying to blag, i'm thousands in debt cos of uni so can you blame me?
 
crazydoc said:
As opposed to adults in Europe? Meaning that kids treat their stuff like crap, and adults use it more responsibly?

I'd agree.
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Meaning... more sold in the USA than Europe... and meaning the cheap made budget mics and etc are targeted at kids with little money rather than pro recording studios and etc.

Here's some more food for thought...
I bought a V67G and VTB-1 and they both dropped in value in a matter of months after buying them... whereas for example, my SM81's are still worth what I paid for them years ago, or worth even more now.
 
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noisedude said:
i just didn't know enough about PMI in the UK.

i'm just trying to blag, i'm thousands in debt cos of uni so can you blame me?
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If you are in London on February 10th, the Sounds Expo Show is on that weekend. It is an end user show so you can get in. I am not sure how much it costs, but we will have all of our products on display. If you get there, come by our booth at Booth S53

Be sure to let me know your noisedude. I will be happy to show you the mics and open them up so you can see what we do. Full details on the show are Here

Maybe we will see you there!
 
i'd love to come along, it's the opposite end of the country but i could get there. are you just there on the 10th or for the whole thing? they're only letting students in on the 12th but i could exaggerate my part-time work as a music teacher to get in on another day.....?
 
i've sent for entry stuff stating my job to be a teacher. it's true, i work for the council and everyfink!

train tickets aren't cheap but hey. so maybe i will see you there.
 
DJL said:
...targeted at kids with little money rather than pro recording studios and etc.
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Oh, I'm sorry - I guess I'm on the wrong bbs - I thought this place was for amateurs like me. :)
 
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