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daveblue222
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any good, just bought one based on reviews on dealer sites. seems to sound great for the money, but does it actually sound great??????
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-dave
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scrubs
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Big Kenny
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You read dealer reviews and bought it on their recommendations? Stay away from the Bentley website....scrubs said:
zed32
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Ouch. This is not a great choice according to your plans in the other thread. Looks a little on the noisy side based on the specs. A quick search of this website doesn't really bring many favorable reviews. Aren't you supposed to ask these things before you buy the microphone?
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daveblue222
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i mean its based on user reviews not dealer reviews. i dont have much money and that seemed a fair price for a large diaphram with different pick-up patterns, i know i could of got something better off ebay but im to eager. also im not exactly wanting something mind blowing, if i had lots more £ i would opt for a akg414.
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zed32
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Those user reviews are usually total BS. Probably just a bunch of people who've never used a better microphone suddenly thinking WOW, this thing sounds great! Nobody is asking you to throw down money for a C414, but since you were ready to spend $200 on the C1000S, that leaves you with penty of money left over after buying that phantom power supply to do much better than a Samson. That is just a terrible choice for a room mic if for no other reason than the fact that it is noisier than all hell. For the price, I would have gone with something from MXL or CAD. They are not great mics, but they sure hold their own among the budget mic crowd more than any Samson product that I am aware of. Sorry, but you really should have searched here for some better options rather than relying on user reviews from a retail site. Of course anyone who just paid money for a product is gonna think it's great at first, but I bet that a lot of those people a year from now wouldn't be leaving the same type of review.
zed32
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Oh and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash you and your purchase, but we can't really help you if you're asking questions after the fact. If you would have asked this before you bought it, we could have prevented you from buying what is more than likely going to turn out to be the wrong gear for your needs(or anyone's needs for that matter). I'm more than happy to help with any questions you may have, and so are most of the people here from what I've observed, but there's nothing we can do to help you once you've already made your purchase.
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Big Kenny
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Then again it IS a microphone and it WILL record sounds. might force you to be a better enginner. You should hear what Harvey can do with a coupla 57's and a Marshall
zed32
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True, but the SM57 doesn't suck that bad.Big Kenny said:
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daveblue222
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pezking
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How much did you pay for the mic?
I've never used a CO3, but my experience with Samson mics is that they are adequate and represent good value for money. The specs of the mic all seem perfectly acceptable and I see no reason why this would be a bad mic, although there's no substitute for hearing it.
I agree that it'd be better to have asked the opinions of people here before your purchase, but oh well. I don't however think people should lambast you though for your decision.
Whilst I don't mean to piss on your bonfire, I wouldn't take what SoundOnSound magazine print as gospel. As I learn more and more at university it becomes apparent to me that a lot of the time they don't know what they're talking about.
I'm sure the CO3 will produce adequate results for you. Sure it's not "best" microphone, but what is the "best" microphone? There's always something "better" as long as you're willing to pay more money and look around for it.
IMO the "best" microphone is one that meets all the criteria that I set out for it. If I need a variable pattern microphone, with a fairly flat FR, that's not to noisy with a pad - all for under £50 then the C03 is almost certainly the "best" mic for me. If it is for you too, I'm happy for you.
Good luck
I've never used a CO3, but my experience with Samson mics is that they are adequate and represent good value for money. The specs of the mic all seem perfectly acceptable and I see no reason why this would be a bad mic, although there's no substitute for hearing it.
I agree that it'd be better to have asked the opinions of people here before your purchase, but oh well. I don't however think people should lambast you though for your decision.
Whilst I don't mean to piss on your bonfire, I wouldn't take what SoundOnSound magazine print as gospel. As I learn more and more at university it becomes apparent to me that a lot of the time they don't know what they're talking about.
I'm sure the CO3 will produce adequate results for you. Sure it's not "best" microphone, but what is the "best" microphone? There's always something "better" as long as you're willing to pay more money and look around for it.
IMO the "best" microphone is one that meets all the criteria that I set out for it. If I need a variable pattern microphone, with a fairly flat FR, that's not to noisy with a pad - all for under £50 then the C03 is almost certainly the "best" mic for me. If it is for you too, I'm happy for you.
Good luck
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daveblue222
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i paid £50 for it, and simply because it was the cheapest omni mic for that money. i plan to use it to record a classical guitar and some vocals, and some room micing for rehersals ect...
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zed32
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daveblue222 said:
the cheapest mic for the money? hehe
zed32
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oh and re the Sound on Sound article, i don't think i've ever read a SOS review that had anything negative to say about any product. i have personal experience with the C03 microphone, my friend has one. he used it to record some songs with vocal and a couple of acoustic guitars and sent me the tracks for mixing. the amount of noise on the tracks made them almost unusable. now i'm not sure if it was the mic or the way he mic'd everything, but it was just really noisy. the sound was dull, and trying to add any hi EQ would just bring out this crazy hissssss. he ended up coming over to my little home studio and recorded it much better on some different microphones.
and dude, what's with asking AFTER you already bought it? seems kinda back-asswards. you could have probably done a little better getting a mic that wasn't omni, but at least was a little bit cleaner sounding. for a room mic, you're really gonna want a condenser with low self noise i would imagine.
and dude, what's with asking AFTER you already bought it? seems kinda back-asswards. you could have probably done a little better getting a mic that wasn't omni, but at least was a little bit cleaner sounding. for a room mic, you're really gonna want a condenser with low self noise i would imagine.
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daveblue222
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Im not sure why im getting put down just because I bought a mic "more experienced" recording enthusiasts would not touch with a barge poll. I am by no means experienced in the world of recording, but correct me if im wrong this microphone will record some kind of sound be it good or bad?. At no point in my previous posts have i said its going to sound good or rather want it to sound good, I was just happy that it had the features I need i.e omni, roll off.
Im quite confident however that it cant sound that bad, and maybe with a bit of time and patience I can get some decent sounds out of it. Im also now aware that i could of maybe got a better mic for the money, but if im honest im not that fussed. Some of the greatest music was recorded with shite equipment i.e robert johnson, billy childish, nick drake demos.
It might sound like im trying to convince myself that ive made a good investment somehow, and i didnt expect people to all agree with my purchase but as an amateur in the field of recording some positive and productive advice would of been nice.
Further more I did want a mic that was omni (and thats why i got this model because it had this option, it was inexpensive, and im not that fussy to go finding another that is maybe a bit better)
Sorry to keep going on but I find it quite stupid that after posting a simple and polite post I get treated like an idiot. Im sure that this is a forum that promotes learning and progress rather than the views of patronizing Know It All's.
Thanks to those who posted with some consideration for a novice
-dave
Im quite confident however that it cant sound that bad, and maybe with a bit of time and patience I can get some decent sounds out of it. Im also now aware that i could of maybe got a better mic for the money, but if im honest im not that fussed. Some of the greatest music was recorded with shite equipment i.e robert johnson, billy childish, nick drake demos.
It might sound like im trying to convince myself that ive made a good investment somehow, and i didnt expect people to all agree with my purchase but as an amateur in the field of recording some positive and productive advice would of been nice.
Further more I did want a mic that was omni (and thats why i got this model because it had this option, it was inexpensive, and im not that fussy to go finding another that is maybe a bit better)
Sorry to keep going on but I find it quite stupid that after posting a simple and polite post I get treated like an idiot. Im sure that this is a forum that promotes learning and progress rather than the views of patronizing Know It All's.
Thanks to those who posted with some consideration for a novice
-dave
zed32
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yeah dude i didn't really mean to pile on, i just thought it was kinda funny when you said it was the "cheapest omni mic for that money"
but yeah of course you're gonna get some sounds recorded, and it's gonna be a hell of a lot better than NOT getting some sounds recorded. i wish you the best of luck on your projects, but seriously man, next time ask here first! we're here to help, well at least some people are. i don't think anybody in the thread is really trying to put you down or make you look stupid, it's really just odd that you asked the question when you did.
but trust me, once you start recording and getting some stuff done with this mic, you're gonna be wanting more! it's an addiction.
but yeah of course you're gonna get some sounds recorded, and it's gonna be a hell of a lot better than NOT getting some sounds recorded. i wish you the best of luck on your projects, but seriously man, next time ask here first! we're here to help, well at least some people are. i don't think anybody in the thread is really trying to put you down or make you look stupid, it's really just odd that you asked the question when you did.
but trust me, once you start recording and getting some stuff done with this mic, you're gonna be wanting more! it's an addiction.
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daveblue222
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cheers. i only got it because it was one of few large diaphrams, with muti pick-up options for that kind of money.maybe i did jump in to fast and not get the best mic i could of got but like i said im not to fussed. Ill post the links for the songs when im done .
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zed32
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daveblue222 said:
isn't it pretty much the ONLY one?
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I haven't used the mic, but reading the specs I would be aware of two things: the aforementioned noise, which may or may not be an issue. It depends on what you are recording; it could also depend on your mic; some brands and models are known for having highly variable noise. I don't know if that is the case with this mic.
However, you can work around that by controlling your signal to noise ratio; the goal is to get the signal to the mic as loud as possible. For vocals that is quite easy, just move closer to the mic. You may want to use different polar pattern settings when close micing vocals to control proximity effect. A lot of singers, especially thin male vocals, like the bass boost from a cardioid or figure 8 setting. Otherwise, use the bass rolloff, or switch to omni.
The other thing I noticed was the current consumption is relatively high. In fact, that could be a cause of varying reports you hear about the mic; if someone uses the mic with a phantom power supply that does not provide full spec power (which is 10mA), then the performance of the mic could be degraded, and that could easily decrease the signal to noise ratio.
However, you can work around that by controlling your signal to noise ratio; the goal is to get the signal to the mic as loud as possible. For vocals that is quite easy, just move closer to the mic. You may want to use different polar pattern settings when close micing vocals to control proximity effect. A lot of singers, especially thin male vocals, like the bass boost from a cardioid or figure 8 setting. Otherwise, use the bass rolloff, or switch to omni.
The other thing I noticed was the current consumption is relatively high. In fact, that could be a cause of varying reports you hear about the mic; if someone uses the mic with a phantom power supply that does not provide full spec power (which is 10mA), then the performance of the mic could be degraded, and that could easily decrease the signal to noise ratio.
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daveblue222
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yes thats what i thought but everyone was saying "you could of got a better mic for the money", thats correct but it wouldnt of had the same spec.
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