Saluda Cymbals...

[Yareek]

I think that what you are telling me is just some marketing bullshit and I am calling you on it. Go sell your wares somewhere else. These people are trying to get VALUE for their money not polished up junk. As for the cymbals they look like they are lathed like shit and everytime I have touched one I have walked away laughing. The fact you twits are so bent on selling them means that you are on the money side of the equation. I have played drums and drumset and percussion for 20 + years and hold a bachelors degree in jazz performance and an associate degree in recording.

What a waste of time, replying to a spam hound like yourself.

I am not affiliated with the company, I do not sell anything, and I think you're full of it. You're telling me that cymbal alloys are marketing ploys?

So I guess engine sizes are marketing ploys in vehicles?

Seriously, alloys are one variable affecting a cymbal's sound. But a few posts up, you said that alloys are everything in a cymbal, and now they're just a marketing ploy?

Good lord.

 

[ausrock]

Jar......Yareek,

It really isn't misinformation as Wuhan is just a name on cymbals originating from a region in China, the parent company is responsible for numerous brands apart from Wuhan and it is quite possible that they are the source of a lot of the raw pies being used by the like of Saluda. Nothing wrong with that.

A search back through old GN posts would indicate that Jamie has (maybe deliberately) not commented when this subject has been raised in the past, rather prefering to leave it to others to attempt to answer the questions.

 

[firby]

I am saying you are a marketing ploy because I have heard the cymbals and they suck. Please don't try to make people buy stuff that sucks. OK ?

They could buy a beat to hell old zild for half the price of a saluda and have a better cymbal.

There are cheaper cymbals but just use them to effect. Your cymbals are one thing that you can play and use for years. SO. If you arent going to mash them with marching band sticks and terrible technique, if you care about your sound rather than your volume (as I suppose many here do) then get a good cymbal. Get a real cymbal. I don't think that this is so hard.

And yes, the Lord is good.

Whatever. Like I am going to buy a cymbal based on some mp3 you put on the net. *snicker* I am going to go to the place where they are and pick out the best one. Because, I give a shit about my sound.

Everybody but two people here are not giving the saluda thumbs up. I really started commenting on this because it is just so gay to tell people how great they sound and then tell them that you just put them on sale in your 'store'. The way you defend your points lets me know that you have some vested interest in the sale of these pieces of crap. And ya know ? that just doesn't cut it with me. SO crawl back into your hole.

Salude Saluda man. If I were ever to find one of those pieces of crap laying on the roadside for free I would take it home. Then you could come over and 'toss my saluda' you freakin gaylord.

 

[ausrock]

Before anyone responds, I would ask them to consider that what constitutes "good" sound for one person can quite validly constitute "bad" sound for another, consequently, Firby's opinion of Saludas is just as valid as Yareek's and for either to attempt to defend their opinion as being more righteous than the others is just plain stupid.

Cyclone, like it or not, you were spamming.

Yareek, if I were so inclined, which I'm not, I could pull Saluda's marketing spiel and stategies apart without raising a sweat, the point is, there is no point, Saluda are producing a product at a price point and are using a smart marketing strategy which is subliminally convincing people that their product is preferable to the established brands. If someone buys into that and is for a time, happy with their new instruments, then fine, more power to them.

 

[Yareek]

Well, I suppose logic and reasoning aren't going to work.

Ignore everything I said because I apparently know nothing about cymbals or manufacturing.

Alloys are all marketing ploys, as is hand hammering versus machines, lathing versus none, and brilliant versus traditional finishes.

Everything made in China, even if it's just raw material, is absolutely inferior in every way shape and form than anything made anywhere else in the world. That's just plain common sense.

Seriously though, if you want to read about cymbals more than just "Ziljdian is the best," I'd check out either http://forum.drumshed.org/ or http://www.cymbalholic.com/forum/. Granted, there are people who trash Saludas everywhere you go, but at least these people have arguments. You'll also find a lot of people who love the sound of Saludas, as I do.

 

[firby]

Well, I suppose logic and reasoning aren't going to work.

Ignore everything I said because I apparently know nothing about cymbals or manufacturing.

That's pretty much what I am saying. Now you are finally starting to get the logic.

I also think that you are in cahoots with the Cyclone guy. Pretty much because he seems to know you by name. Read the posts guys and check it out. So, I think that you are in on the money side as well. Also I think that you are a spammer hammer because you claim to have traded more than 200 emails with the guys on nights and weekends. No normal drummer would have done this. So you either are Cyclone (douchebag spammer) or you are just a douchebag working with him to get free stock or whatever.

Either way, you're motives are impure.

I really love the hell out of my Istanbul cymbals I went to New York to play them all the day the came in as new shipment to the store. But ya know what. I haven't written those guys a single email. Not even at night or on weekends.

So. Blow me.

HA HA HA HA HA!

As if support is on my short list when cymbal shopping. "hello, is this tech support ? Yeah, well I bought this saluda cymbal off of ebay and it sounds like shit, what should I do ? Throw it away huh ?"

Whatever, fucking dork. It gives me great pleasure that someday this message will show up in the search and some kid who works for his money will decide to spend it on cymbals that don't suck nearly as bad as saluda cymbals.