Roland JV1010

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I am wondering how great this thing really is. Are the sounds coming out of this thing really that good? I know Roland is good stuff, and I understand a lot of studios depend on their cutting edge technology of samples and whatnot- but this is a budget priced model- I do not want budget sounds. I only need a few like 12 - string and maybe some slow strings. I cannot, even on the ROLAND website, find ANY information on the sounds this thing has OTHER than the SIGNATURE stereo grand that they talk about. ANy help would be great, thanks guys!
 
I dont know the 1080, just the JV-1010.

Yes, the sounds are very good on the JV1010, and it has an expansion slot. The sounds do not sound "budget", they are totally suitable for pro work. It probably doesnt sound as good as the 1080, but lets face it, the price is right. I really like mine.

Two complaints about the JV1010:

1. Hard to use without a computer

2. Amazingly low output on lots of patches. I actually have to adjust the gain on my mixer at times to get a proper output.
 
Thanks David. Does it at least have a nice 12 string? In your opinion? And what about strings. One more (sorry) does it have a fiddle (violin). Thanks for your time!
 
I am using a JV1010 as well...

I think the JV1010 sound is as good as JV1080, only difference is JV1010 only have 1 expansion slot whereas JV1080 has 4.

and JV1010 is meant to be use with a PC...

and the string sounds are really good! :)
 
Horseshoe, I am a pro classical violinist, so you are asking the wrong person here!!

Some of the strings are ok, like some slow film score patches. There is no fiddle patch that is good, nor is there on any synth, really. Strings sounds only work with large sections.
The 12-string guitars are really crisp and bright, I really like them, but I can see how some people might think they are too much.

There is a nice harpsichord, nice plucked sounds (dulcimer,etc),
really nice church organs.

Drums sound good, but are limited. The piano is passable, Nowhere close to something like Kurzweil. There are some really great filler pads, and a lot of patches do neat tricks with panning and special effects.

As Jamal said, no computer? Dont get a Jv1010. I will assume you have one since you are on this BBS!
 
Wow David, a pro classic violinist? When I hear those words I know you are certainly the perfectionist and probably no synth or sample could come close to pleasing you! The only thing I resemble pro is in songwriting and maybe acoustic guitar (well, maybe that is a little far fetched) but the songwriting I am pretty good at. I think you just sold me on the JV1010. you said 12 string guitar(s) as plural, so I am assuming it has more than one, and if that is the case that is great! Just what I was looking for! You know once I heard a cheap keyboard have the most awesome violin in it. Complete with noise and the beginning stroke cluck (really added a hint of bluegrass/country) .Amazingly enough the other sounds sucked. Fortunately I have a good fiddle player who can come in and really strut, but his forte is the mandolin. On a side note, do you think that an auto-tuning pitch corrector is a good thing to get just to get those barely off but ear-bending fiddle solos just right? If I were to buy one, it would be for the sole purpose of fixing a fiddle track. I hate the way they make a vocal sound. I know there was a big discussion of threads recently on Antares, but it seems to me it would be perfect because I am sure even the best violinist has his days... Let me know and thanks again!
 
Horseshoe, the Jv1010 has 1,023 patches, and many steel and 12strings. As I said, they are very bright and crisp. Of course yo can edit them to death with the sound diver software (Included) if you have a midi interface.

A lot of people around here have JV1010s, and everyone seems pretty happy, so I think you cant go wrong for $395.

Auto-tune on Violin???? What a concept, it never occured to me!
All I have is the software demo, and either it doesnt work well or I cant work it well, but:

I dont think it would work well. For classical, I think it might make it more OUT OF TUNE! Here's why:

Classical violinists have a different type of intonation, we generally play sharp on purpose to get a brighter sounds. It drives are colleagues in the orchestra nuts. We also play leading tones as high as possible, so the auto-tune might actually lower it.
On a piano, an A# and a B flat are the same note; on a violin, they are very different, we play the B flat very flat, and the A# very sharp. If you do it right it is still "In tune", at least when playing with other string players.

If you listen to someone like Itzhak Perlman play with an orchestra, you will notice that he is much sharper than the orchestra; he does thought to add extra brightness and to cut through the orchestra.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, however, from my experience you definately need a computer to control the JV-1010, unless you play just 1 patch at a time through a Keyboard. The JV-1010 does come with the Session expansion card which is what contains the 'stereo grand'. The unit has 1,023 patches + the Session card.

When I was purchasing the unit (which I paid $995 AUS) I was told that the JV-1010 was effectively the Roland XP-30 without a Keyboard and without the 'Techno' expansion card. I believe that that the XP-30 was being sold for $2200 AUS'ish.

As for Strings, I don't have the expansion card, however there is an orchestra expansion card (2 in fact). I was told that if you want to get a great strings sound, the Orchestra 2 card is the best as it has all different sort's of attacks etc. I should mention that these sound modules are compatiable between the JV-1010 and the JV-1080

DavidK said that there isn't really a synth, however all the sounds are customisable in that you can alter the sound, apply effects, adjust reverb & make up your own patches, however this is limited.

Hope that helps,

Porter

P.S. I wish that I paid the prices you guys paid in $AUD.. it would have been nice to buy a JV-1010 for $395AUD
 
Porter, you got it right: the JV1010 needs a computer, or else you will go blind looking at the little print on the front of it.

The JV1010 has one expansion slot. An Orchestral2 card is probably okay, but in general, Roland is not famous for orchestral sounds, I would probably go with the Proteus or Kurzweil stuff if I wanted to do orchestra stuff, but for the price ( sorry, in the US) it is one mifty machine.

As i said before, when doing string stuff, beware of the solo fiddle or violin, it is just not happening yet.

If you need a violinist, send me a plane ticket, especially you Porter, I have never been down under!!! Cheers Dave
 
DavidK said:
Horseshoe, the Jv1010 has 1,023 patches, and many steel and 12strings. As I said, they are very bright and crisp. Of course yo can edit them to death with the sound diver software (Included) if you have a midi interface.

A lot of people around here have JV1010s, and everyone seems pretty happy, so I think you cant go wrong for $395.
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that sound driver is hard to use and I am about to get rid of my 1010 and get a 1080.
 
Okay, I am confused all over again. Can I hook my keyboard to the JV1010 via MIDI cable, then hook up JV1010 to my mixer via analog and play it in real time while hearing the patch that I choose? Or do I HAVE to use Sound Diver? Isn't that just an editor? Or is it damn activator and controller?
 
thehorseshoe said:
Okay, I am confused all over again. Can I hook my keyboard to the JV1010 via MIDI cable, then hook up JV1010 to my mixer via analog and play it in real time while hearing the patch that I choose?
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Thats how i do it, I dont ever use that program. Tha programs only for stuff like editing.
 
thehorseshoe. If you want to write a MIDI file then play that file through the Roland, you would have a computer, hence you could use the program which ht JV-1010 comes with to set all your patches up alot easier.

The first few days when I had my JV-1010 I just plugged the MIDI cord from the out on my keyboard to the in on the back of the JV-1010 and used the selector switches on the front on the module to control the patch that was playing. If you have a look at the Roland web site (http://www.rolandus.com) you can see a picture of the unit, if you already haven't. You just select the part/patch receiving channel, select the Category/Bank then the patch, ie.. slow strings. As long as your keyboard is sending the info down the correct 'patch' you just play read time... either listening via the head phone jack or you can run the back outputs straight to your mixer or recording desk.

I guess in summary, it ISN'T essential to used the sound driver, however it can be used as a controller/editor for the unit. The driver does allow you to get more out of the box, however it ain't essential to make music.

Porter
 
Also looking at the jv-1010

I am looking at the Roland jv-1010 and a Fatar (StudioLogic) SL-161 MIDI controller as part of my home recording solution.

However, I was wondering if, for non-computer use, the patches on the jv-1010 could be selected from the controller rather than via the controls on the front of the module itself.

This could be a bit more of a general MIDI (Not "General MIDI" ;) ) question, but if it isn't possible, I may head in a different direction.
 
HomeRec,

I'm not 100% with MIDI controllers, however if they can send bank select commands then yes you can control it from the controller. I think this might be the same thing, however when I have my Keyboard plugged in and I change the patch, the patch changes on the JV-1010.

If you can have a look at a manual it contains a few pages on MIDI and the commands. There is one page in the manual dedicated to bank select. I'm at work so I don't have access to the manual so I can't give you any more info than that.

Porter
 
HomeRec, I guess in theory that might work, I dont really know.
However, if you wanted to do that, you would have to memorize 1023 patches and where they are.

For example: I just turned on My JV 1010 and put it on "piano".
There are 59 patches under the name piano, and no way to know which is which, just a number for each one. If you find a killer electric patch, you must call it "36", etc, because the jv1010 has no info except for an LCD readout with numbers only.

The printing on the front of the JV1010 is so small that you need a microscope to read it; in my setup, the 1010 is under my desk, so there is no way I can look it at without climbing down with a flashlight, which I did.

There are 151 patches under the Guitar/Bass setting, so if you want to pull up patches, you better memorize the number of each one you like.
 
DavidK said:
in my setup, the 1010 is under my desk, so there is no way I can look it at without climbing down with a flashlight, which I did.
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Oh my... :rolleyes:

That's the reason why I'm running around to find a lighter just minutes before my concerts... Try to change a patch on that JV1010 on a dark stage. Hmmmm.... Think quick. Euh... It was a 'synth'-patch... Which button is that? Ehm.. Lighter, lighter... Here we go... Now, number 178... Damn. Missed my cue. :D
 
Roel, DavidK, Porter...

:eek: Ouch... score one for all-in-one synthesizers.
 
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