Ringing EARS!

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tonyA said:

Remember, ear plugs lower the volume by only 3 db! [/I] )
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Not sure where you got your data from but typically earplugs give you anywhere from 10db to 30db of protection. It's real important to have properly fitted earplugs and to limit your exposure time.
 
NYMorningstar said:
Not sure where you got your data from but typically earplugs give you anywhere from 10db to 30db of protection. It's real important to have properly fitted earplugs and to limit your exposure time.
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Sorry, my negligence. I should have qualified that. I was talking about the military ear plugs. they cut them by 3 db. And you are right, even Home Depot's ear plug cuts them by 29 db.

But did you know that those whose Military duties (as opposed to Professional duties) is at the Gun Mount on a battleship are not allowed to wear ear plugs? They said it is crucial that they hear everything going on inside. This is what they told me when USS NEW JERSEY was inport here last 1986. Don't know how accurate that was. Poor guy's huh?
 
shackrock said:
i'm only 18, shit.
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I've done some careless thing with my ears when I was younger as well. I think if you make a serious effort to avoid loud sounds you might still be okay. I've recoverd from a few rock concerts in my youth that took a few days to "heal" from. If you have one of those 2000 watt car stereos get rid of it. In 30 years I think this country will have alot of middle aged people that are deaf because of those things. If a stereo can blurr your vision, think of what it's doing to your ears.

Reading up on my own prob I've been having recently and I see that tinitus is actually a side affect of some drugs including the prevacid I recently started taking. Gonna stop taking it and see what happens. If it actually gets better I'll hit the doc up for some other stomach acid meds. I'd rather have an upset stomach over this weird ringing in my ears...
 
DAFFYDRUNK said:
In 30 years I think this country will have alot of middle aged people that are deaf because of those things.
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Too late. I was reading an article that said a lot of baby boomers have hearing loss from loud music and it's been worse for younger generations.

If you stop listening to super loud music you ears can recover. The worst type of damage is caused by sudden loud noises. That was what really hurt Townsend's hearing (the exploding kick drum on the Sullivan show). Long term exposure will cause damage over time but if you are young you are probably going to be okay if you get smart about it now.
 
There is a strong case for making this thread a sticky - the bass players bbs I also go to gives prominence to a similar, but much longer one, and if it's only saved one person's hearing (which I suspect it has) then it's very worthwhile.
 
tinitus

tinitus is serious stuff!!! it is general caused by excess noise exposure (loud sonds) it is not fully understood and is a brain induced sound, it most commonly indicates damage to the hair cells located in the cochlea (inner ear) and acompanies a high freq hearing loss. but it can be caused by a ototoxic reation to a drug. There are some who claim to have therapys to reduce or eliminate tinitus but these are not clinically proven treatments. the best protection against tinitus is to make common sense judgements when exposing yourself to loud sounds. i am a board certified hearing instrument speacilist ( with bad typing & spelling skill) i see patients every day with tinitus. my patients would tell you in no uncertain terms loud music is not worth tinitus and hearing loss. imagine one day not hearing the letters
s, f, t, th, or the blinkers in your car or women and children voices clearly ect....
 
How about the Tatoo's !!

When I was listening to some local band play "Morrison's" "Light my fire" in a bank vault in the 60's in a concrete black painted building with black lights and floursent flowers painted on the walls, and when after 2 hours of exposure I was physically numb for up to 5 hours, my mom quit letting me go on friday nights cause I started saying "Huh", a lot.
Never got over that. Is that habit?

I sleep with ear plugs now. Have 6 sets in my pocket at all times.
My vocal range moved after a guy at work hollered in my left ear. I was working nights and drifted off for 2 or 3 minutes when he eased up on my left side and yelled.
I could not hardly sit up for 3 days after that without getting sick.
I could not hardly speak to any one for about 6 months because the left ear was as distorted, or more than a blown out 10 inch speaker. I could not see with out my vision viberating every time I tried to speak. I use to sing tenor. I don't know what you call where I sing now but its no where near as good as it use to be. Even after all the loud music. It only took 1 time.

The Dr's said the tiny hairs in the ear had been snaped off and damage was permenate. Had the ear drum been busted they could have at least put a patch on it.
So with that said , Get ear plugs and use them.

I have learned to deal with it. I can't hear drum sticks hitting together when a drummer has been recorded so I am dependent on another pair of ears to help.

I feel, ugh, should I say, less than the best but I can still write songs.

One last note. Just think of all those young good looking women with those Tatoo's!!! They are going to be almost unrecognizable when they are folded in wrinkles !!!


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One more thing! Drinking will move the Blood Pressure and the ringing will start too. Espescially if you got cold cocked at the bar the night before.
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Re: tinitus

yrral said:
tinitus is serious stuff!!! it is general caused by excess noise exposure (loud sonds) it is not fully understood and is a brain induced sound, it most commonly indicates damage to the hair cells located in the cochlea (inner ear) and acompanies a high freq hearing loss. but it can be caused by a ototoxic reation to a drug. There are some who claim to have therapys to reduce or eliminate tinitus but these are not clinically proven treatments. the best protection against tinitus is to make common sense judgements when exposing yourself to loud sounds. i am a board certified hearing instrument speacilist ( with bad typing & spelling skill) i see patients every day with tinitus. my patients would tell you in no uncertain terms loud music is not worth tinitus and hearing loss. imagine one day not hearing the letters
s, f, t, th, or the blinkers in your car or women and children voices clearly ect....
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Welcome to the Board. Now we really are a community. I see, right now you have 2 posts. Now we have an "audiologist". Just in time for us....
 
In the Jan / Feb issue of Tape Op there was a really good 2 or 3 page article about tinnitus, what causes it and what kind of things you can do to help ease the symptoms. I just went looking for a link for it and they don't have it posted on the web, but I recommend trying to get your hands on that issue to help.

My band mates frequently give me a bad time about wearing earplugs in band practice but the way I look at it, I have been playing music since I was four and when I am too old to try to be a rock legend, I will still be doing other types of music so screw them. One time we were all sitting around a campfire at a friends house out by the ocean in the middle of the boonies. Our drummer hadn't shown up yet and it was dark and this place was really hard to find. He called up our buddies place and low and behold...I was the only one who heard the phone ringing from outside. Coincidence?? I think not....

It serious stuff....don't take it lightly.
 
surgeon general's warning: Smoking probably has something to do with hearing loss too.
 
Being a musician with tinnitus is like being a blind artist. Ask Pete Townsend, who bragged about having "really strong ears" when the Who was active. If you lose your hearing, what are you going to do? Take up lip synching? You won't be able to hear the record...
 
Lots of things can make a "touch of tinnitus" seem worse. Try to avoid Caffine, Aspartame, Asprin. Stimulants in general have been known to aggravate tinnitus. In fact, TONS of people have it. It's nearly a "normal" condition. Most musicians do in some way or another. THe most important thing is to cope with it, and work around it.
 
Hmm... what if I'm hearing voices in my head? Is this the same thing? :D
 
hearing loss is no joke. Snare drums are fucking loud. I never allow drummers to have sticks in their hands until after i'm done micing the set. Those motherfuckers will crack a snare while your head is right next to it. fucking drummers. Once you have permanent ringing you are basically fucked unless its a medical condition. I actually had a friend who went deaf in one ear after a night of heavy drinking. Another friend went deaf in one ear from a really loud PA sqeal. Get earplugs. You can have them specifically designed to fit your individual ears and will cost you a little over a hundred bucks. Also they are designed for audio folks in that they attentenuate the entire frequency spectrum evenly, i.e. they don't just make things sound "duller" like those cheesy yellow onces you get for $2. They also are pretty hard to see (they fit in your ears tightly and don't stick out and are flesh colored.) Get 'em! They have the nubs seal of approval.
 
WHAT ABOUT OUT OF TUNE?

Drinking can really cause deafness? I usually drink every night, I dont get sloushed, but I get a buzz, it helps me sleep better, I have a problem of thinking too much. (if it dont make sense, nevermind) Anyway.

I remember one time I was working on an instrumental. It wasnt loud due to the fact it was late at night. But I bet I probably listened to the beat for an hour or so, I was writting to it at the same time. After a while, I realized I had been listening to it way too long cuz then I noticed the beat sounded way, I mean way out of tune, I didnt have any ringing or none that I could remember, but it was like my mind was trying to trick me or something. This has happened a couple of times in the past few years. Any one else know why that happens, LOL, besides my brain cant take the same song over and over for too long?

Thanx for who ever started this thread and those who gave advice. It just made me realize a lot of things I do that are probably hard on my hearing that I dont even think about. Im young, but I went threw the stage of loud car systems that I know probably caused some hearing loss. LOL, a family stopped that, but for real, good thread. pm
 
Alchohol will deaden your sense of hearing, which can cause you to turn it up louder, which can damage your ears. Besides that, when you listen with a buzz on you are not hearing what's coming out of the speakers with any accuracy so keep your hands off the EQ until you are straight.
 
Coke Bottles!

When you are on a 4 wheeler, motorcycle, Convertable car or any where the air is moving across the ear drum wear the ear plugs. Its like the viberation in a coke bottle the way the viberation works over the ears!!!


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