cordura21
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another effect that's pretty cool is the one used in Depeche Mode's "New Dress" (Black Celebration). It's sort of an 'inverted echo, meaning that you first hear the echo and then you hear the original phrase. It's pretty cool.
VOXVENDOR
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Shit man...
I never thought of that.... Thanks... Im gonna try it..
I never thought of that.... Thanks... Im gonna try it..
cordura21
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check the track, they have the echo pretty loud. The echo has a megaphone effect, making a great contrast when you first hear the distorted vocal and then the clean one.
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John Byrne
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Years ago it was called preverb - probably still is today. I used it a few times as intros to a couple of songs. With analog tapes I left about ten seconds of tape before the start of the song. When all of the tracks had been recorded, I reversed the tape and went back to the start of the song. Just as the first guitar chord was hit (on the original take) I used a spare track to hit the same chord again - using lots of reverb this time and letting the chord sustain until it faded. Reverse the tape again and, Bingo! a pretty cool intro to a song.
Another cool effect is a reverse guitar solo (I think the credit goes to the late George Harrison). You record a guitar solo - nothing too fast or widdly-widdy - and then learn how to play the same solo backwards. Flip the tape over and record the "backwards" solo in the appropriate place. Flip the tape back again and you have your reverse solo. It took me a bit of time to get the hang of the technique, but the results were impressive.
Regards,
John
Another cool effect is a reverse guitar solo (I think the credit goes to the late George Harrison). You record a guitar solo - nothing too fast or widdly-widdy - and then learn how to play the same solo backwards. Flip the tape over and record the "backwards" solo in the appropriate place. Flip the tape back again and you have your reverse solo. It took me a bit of time to get the hang of the technique, but the results were impressive.
Regards,
John
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mojka
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What would you do, for instance, with Cakewalk?
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John Byrne
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Hi Mojka,
If Cakewalk has a function where you can reverse the track then there's no problem. I'm a Cool Edit Pro man myself - most other wav editors have this function also.
When you record the original track just be sure to leave enough time at the beginning for the preverb. If you forgot, or after adding the reverb you find you haven't left enough time, then insert a few seconds of silence at the beginninmg of the track.
Mark the track, and reverse it and then apply the reverb. How much reverb depends on the material you are using - use a small amount (Concert hall or something similar) and then judge it from there. Reverse the track again and there's your preverb.
As an example, I've done two small examples. Please don't laugh at the quality, as I did the whole thing in less than 15 minutes - no noise reduction, EQing etc.
I wrote the track "CureReverse" in MIDI (using a programme called Encore) and recorded it directly in Cool Edit Pro. Applied the steps outlined above and came up with the second track "CurePreverb". I borrowed the material from the Cure -Lullaby, I hope Robert Smith won't mind.
As I said, I did this in 15 minutes, but if I was seriously going to use this, then, on hearing it for the third time, I probably would only preverb the first note and reverb the second note as this gives a nice "swell" intro. As with all effects, overdoing it spoils the whole effect - I find more is less.
Regards,
John
If Cakewalk has a function where you can reverse the track then there's no problem. I'm a Cool Edit Pro man myself - most other wav editors have this function also.
When you record the original track just be sure to leave enough time at the beginning for the preverb. If you forgot, or after adding the reverb you find you haven't left enough time, then insert a few seconds of silence at the beginninmg of the track.
Mark the track, and reverse it and then apply the reverb. How much reverb depends on the material you are using - use a small amount (Concert hall or something similar) and then judge it from there. Reverse the track again and there's your preverb.
As an example, I've done two small examples. Please don't laugh at the quality, as I did the whole thing in less than 15 minutes - no noise reduction, EQing etc.
I wrote the track "CureReverse" in MIDI (using a programme called Encore) and recorded it directly in Cool Edit Pro. Applied the steps outlined above and came up with the second track "CurePreverb". I borrowed the material from the Cure -Lullaby, I hope Robert Smith won't mind.
As I said, I did this in 15 minutes, but if I was seriously going to use this, then, on hearing it for the third time, I probably would only preverb the first note and reverb the second note as this gives a nice "swell" intro. As with all effects, overdoing it spoils the whole effect - I find more is less.
Regards,
John
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John Byrne
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Damm - upload limits.
Here's the preverb version - it's taken me longer to convert to mp3 than it did to make the thing!!
Regards,
John
Here's the preverb version - it's taken me longer to convert to mp3 than it did to make the thing!!
Regards,
John
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mojka
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Ah yes. It sounds like the Cure to any boring riff. Thanks John.