Requesting advice on my design

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"Fair enough Steve. But, what would you do? Angle the doors or not?"

Michael, keep in mind that I've not experimented with this yet, so all I say is based on a combination of reading with BS filter in "deep" mode, and gut feel - in other words, a "SWAG" -

Personally, for the larger surfaces such as sliding doors, since the possibility is there for the between-door area to be relatively wide even at the narrow side, and since you have such a large area of glass facing each other, I would opt for splaying. That much parallelism just seems to be asking for trouble with high frequency flutter echo, and it's hard to put absorption between glasses and still see...

For a somewhat smaller area, such as a control room window, which will typically have less than half the area of a sliding door, unless the two leaves of the wall in question were at least 8-10 inches apart I would probably go for straight parallel glasses of different thickness, and laminated for sure.

To combat light glare, I would consider tilting BOTH glasses the same way, so as to minimise glare and still keep the maximum air gap. In either case, I'd use the thickest laminated glass I could afford that's consistent with the mass of the wall leaves, and NOT have both panes the SAME thickness.

With more room available between wall leaves, I'd go for splaying with all the other parameters as above. Also, in ALL cases I'd make sure that the space between glasses is vented between the wall leaves and absorbed.

Aside from that, where's that damn winning $54 mil Powerball ticket? I got stuff to do here... Steve
 
progress update

Lots of input to digest since I last checked in (holding my six day old baby in one arm as I attempt to type this!)

So.....what do you guys thing of going with the entry via the tracking room, sliders betwwen the 2 rooms at an angle, and the full rear wall treatment as john suggested. Then some heavy curtains over the sliders as well as the opposing wall. Also pushing the sliders as far to the back of the mixing room as practical.

Please take no offense if I cannot respond quickly, right now my chief job is baby rocker.

Thanks again.
 
John - Yeah, the doors I'm looking at have those types of seals, but each door has 2 layers of glass, and the price seems in line with what you have over there. I was just curious.

They're regular $550 each. I picked up one the other day that was a return, (Guess someone didn't want it after all) and I saved about $150 on it! The other 3 are scheduled for delivery next month.

Knightfly - You have to pay the "idiot tax" or you'll NEVER win that powerball!
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ObeseArmadillo said:
...So.....what do you guys thing of going with the entry via the tracking room, sliders betwwen the 2 rooms at an angle, and the full rear wall treatment as john suggested. Then some heavy curtains over the sliders as well as the opposing wall. Also pushing the sliders as far to the back of the mixing room as practical. ...
Sounds pretty good, but wouldn't you want the sliders as far FORWARD as possible? That way they are less in line with reflections from the speakers and you'll have more surface on the side walls, near the back of the room to treat.

I'm not sure about the curtians. They're going to be less effective at absorbtion/sound attenuation than you'd expect. You can always add treatment ABOVE the doors too.
 
I'm interested in using a plan like this myself. I'm thinking about about building it on one side of my garage. One advantage I see in having the entry in the control room is that the live room will have three doors for the sound to travel through before reaching the outside. I would benifit from that especially since I will have drums in there. My neighbors are very close.

Do you think that there is a problem with having that much glass in the control room? Does having glass on one side and not the other have the similar effect as having non-symetrical walls? If using the glass doors, would it help to put a mirror the same size as the doors on the opposite wall? Or should we use curtains as Obese suggested?

What would you recommend for wall constuction. Should I just build the external walls using single stud since I'm building a room within a room? The garage will have no windows.

Thanks,
Chad
 
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