Recording vocals with EV dynamics?

[bgavin]

I own a pair of RE27 that I use for live performance work.

Has anybody done a good comparision between the RE20 and RE27?

I know what the specs say, but what is the audible difference?

 

[littledog]

The RE27 uses a Neodymium magnet, so the comparison is similar to an SM57 versus a Beta 57. The Neodymium is going to give you a hotter output and a more high frequency content. This can be good or bad, depending on what you are mic'ing and your personal taste.

People who like the classic sound of the RE20 or the SM57 may find the extra high frequencies to be harsh or annoying. That's why the older versions are still so much in demand. You may have to judge for yourself.

 

[soundchaser59]

People who like the classic sound of the RE20 or the SM57 may find the extra high frequencies to be harsh or annoying. That's why the older versions are still so much in demand. You may have to judge for yourself.

Sooooooo True! I was a huge proponent of the N-Dym mics for many years, until I got my first RE20. I spent 2 months doing side by sides, and when I was done I sold all of my N-Dym mics and stuck with the RE20 and the condensors. I dont miss them. They are harsh and hot and hard to work with, much more difficult to work with than regular dynamics.

The ONLY N-Dym mic recommend I will give out now is the ND468 for mic'ing guitar speakers.

Now......whomever wishes can say, "I told you so!" Cuz there were people on all of the forums, including this one, who told me the N-Dyms would prove to be harsh and brittle. I just had to make the time and effort to do the side by sides in order to prove it to myself.

 

[TooNice]

Oh well.. It seems like I'll be getting a harsh mic cuz my order for the 767a is placed

I find it interesting that only the SM57 is mentioned here. The SM58 seems largely forgotten for some reason. I remember reading a Karaoke forum, and I think most people there would've suggested the SM58 as the tried and tested...

 

[soundchaser59]

Oh well.. It seems like I'll be getting a harsh mic cuz my order for the 767a is placed

Well, I wasn't trying to make it sound like a bad thing, sorry.......

You wont be disappointed. They are not bad mics, they just require a bit more effort and experimentation than the regular dynamics. If you take the extra hour or two to figure out how to place it and how to deal with the presence it has, you will like the sound of it. In fact, if you decide you like it enough to get a second one, get the 967! It is noticeably better than all the other ND mics from EV, and it would make a great stage vocal mic.

But someday you'll try an RE20 or an MD421, and then you'll be tempted to "graduate" out of N-Dym's and into defensive weapons.....errr.....uuhhhhhmmm......I mean large diaphragm dynamics!

 

[TooNice]

What are the differences between the 767a and 967? Is one more versatile than the other? More flattering?

I believe that I could still change my order, since one of the item I ordered with it isn't in stock.

Somehow I've heard the 767a mentioned more often than the 967 (perhaps because it is priced closer to the "industry standard" SM58).

 

[soundchaser59]

The 767 has been around longer, and is priced more for the budget minded people like us.

The 967 is maybe a bit newer, but when I did side by side listens (157, 257, 357, 457, 757, 767, 967, 468, all EV ND mics that I've owned) the 967 and the 468 were the only ones that didn't sound like all the other ND mics. All the other ND mics I had sounded all alike.

The 967 sounded much fuller, more balanced across the freq spectrum, which also tended to take emphasis away from the presence boost. When I recorded guitar cab with it, it sounded like it captured more low end and low mid range sound than the other ND mics. It sounded more realistic, more like my guitar speaker. The 468 is a little golf ball ND mic that is intended specifically for guitar cabs (among other things) and it is the only one that doesn't really sound like an EV N-Dym mic, probably because a guitar cab mic doesn't need the presence boost.

I think I got my 967 for $139 maybe? from fullcompass.com

I ended up selling all of my ND mics, except the 468. Since I also have an RE20 and an SM86, I ended up letting go of the 967 also. But if I wanted to pick just one EV ND mic to use on stage for vocals, the 967 would be the one. I thought it was similar to the Shure SM86......not quite as good, but similar. I honestly believe if you do side by side between the 767 and the 967 you will definitely hear the difference, even on home gear like I use.