recording as career or hobby? advise please.

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Sure, money is important - you do have to eat. But do everything in your power to choose a career that you will enjoy. When I was 18, I took the easy way out and went to university like most of my high school classmates. Instead of thinking about what I would like to do, I focused on a career of security. So here I am a 35 year old chartered accountant - and the stereotypes about accountants are true (except me of course). I can pay the bills and take care of wifey and the kids - but I hate my career. I spend 60+ hours of the week doing something I hate - and I'm never going to be rich.

So think before you leap. There are realistic pursuits out there which are generally enjoyable (no job is 100% fun) and can put bread on the table. But you have to set your direction NOW.
 
my 2 cents

PUGSKANK --

Go to school learn what you need to (whatever that may be)
cause this is how it lincs together:

You learn to play better and effectively, you'll know how to mix, eq, and everything over time, giving you leverage to be hands on

If you are in Marketing/Business/Accounting etc.. this in turn will help you understand "THE BUSINESS" side which happens to be 90% of the game, knowledge of that gives you extra leverage also the ability to play well/sing/compose/write/arrange at your
command, cause of all the time you will have to get in practicing
(IF YOU REALLY WANT IT)

SUCCESS will inevidably happen if these measures are taken -- anything and everything can be yours with "A PLAN" and a firm
"STRUCTURE" dreaming is fine, but no tree ever grew without a foundation. Plant your feet firmly, open your mind, learn, listen,
practice and gain knowledge --- YOU WILL BE A THREAT TO BE WRECKONED WITH.

that has been my route, and with moderate success I have achieved what I wanted, and have lived a nice life at age 31.
my own business/RECORDING STUDIO/Telecommunications company/Married/a beautiful son/2 cars/house in BK/condo in NJ
and getting HEAD every night -- hah aha ha ha haha

LEARN--LEARN--LEARN--LEARN -- it's here, all of it is here -- JUST LEARN--LEARN--LEARN--LEARN
 
mstudio's a good example,

of someone who's done alright in the music/recording biz.

I don't think anyone's implying a recording career is not feasible, it is feasible. If you take a well rounded approach, and build a broad foundation of knowledge [of anything], you'll be more likely to succeed. mstudio is a good example of that, I'm sure.

The Entertainment Industry is now a perpetual motion machine. It was going on before we got here, and it will be going on after we're gone. In a way, it's larger than all of us. The Entertainment Industry will keep burning & churning, and it will always need new talent and fresh blood. That's true. It's an industry that touches all of our lives, is massive, and yet, it's still a 'niche' market, if you know what I mean.

For every person like mstudio, I'm sure there' at least 10 wanna be's, who might have big dreams, etc, but are barely surviving.

I have a friend, who's younger, and he's an incredibly talented guitarist. He's really incredibly talented, and yet, he's struggling. His talent might "pop" onto the national or world scene someday, but despite his awesome talent, the odds are still against him.

I have another friend, who's a very great drummer, but he's nowhere. He's an example of a guy who said, "no man, I don't want a job, I just want to play my drums". He never made anything of himself, never did anything, never got a straight job, had kids, couldn't support them, was on all sorts of ADC & welfare,... in short, his life was a mess. Now he's on the street, or worse. He's a disaster, but man, he's a great drummer!

There are many more examples I could give, but just drive through Hollywood, and there are many street people and hustlers, who came to Hollywood to "make it".

I lived in Downtown LA, a place profuse with the stench of urine, and the litter of street people, of hopeless souls. Many of them are very talented, you'd be surprised. None of them ever 'got it together' or 'got a break', though.

In my opinion, mstudio says some wise things, and he's an example of someone who's made it, his way. Use his advise & example, and you'll do well.

Unfortunately, for every 'mstudio', there may be 10-100 'nowhere people', if not more. :( People with talent, great songs, whatever, but who never really "put it all together", [like mstudio did].

The Recording/Entertainment Industry is a many faceted business, and if you're talented, ambitious, and can stay on top of the many 'games', facets of the business, then you'll do ok. I'm sure it could turn out to be an exciting and rewarding career.

On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with pure home recording, in one's spare time, etc. Part time home recording, or full time home recording, or even manic home recording can be quite fulfilling & rewarding, too, as art for art's sake.

Both ways of approaching music & recording can be good.

We all are individuals, with individual ideas and talents, and we all make our dreams come true, not by dreaming endlessly, but by doing something tangible, something active, something creative.

After all, those songs just don't hop out of your head, right onto the tape, by themselves, do they? We have to make it happen, we have to do it by taking action.

Music, recording, etc, breaks out over a wide spectrum, and we all have to find our own niche. Top talent is a niche, successful studios are a niche, and home recording is a niche. Every career or trade is a niche, so it's pretty wide open, to follow your own dreams.

I agree with a previous member, don't sacrifice everything for pure practicality alone, and then wind up 20 years later doing something you hate... It's hard to project ourselves 20 years ahead, to really know for sure, but you have to choose your decisions wisely, as wisely as possible.

I have a non recording career, normal life, etc, and I'm a lifelong home recording & music enthusiast. I've been doing the same job for 19 years. I may be a little bored with what I do, but I don't hate my job. I like it, it's ok. I'm good at what I do, and I'm professional.

But hey, the worst day of music & home recording is better than the best day at work, isn't it?! Haha. There is a balance to be found.

Every day, we have individual choices about what to do, and how to fill our time. What we do every day, every moment, determines what kind of future we'll have. Everyone has their individual choices to make, and in a way, "their own destiny to fulfill". It's a cliche, but it's also true.


Good luck & keep playing & recording.
 
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I think a critical point that hasnt really been mentioned in this discussion is ....we all know people who have alot of raw talent who have not made it. We know people who dont have as much talent yet are very successful. There is a reason for that. Very often the people with alot of talent dont take into account where music is currently at. They play in styles which are years outdated or too far afield for the even the "niche" listener. I can honestly say I have not met a very talented musician/songwriter who was creative and original in a given style ...or a variant of a style.. that was relevant to some commercially viable niche who did not make it on some level. What I see over and over are talented people who just miss the mark. Its not enough to be just talented you have to be viable and very on the up and up with whats going on musically. Additionally, you have to have some original take on
whats going on musically..in a way that moves the genre forward,
even if only an inch or two.
In every genre there are trends. You have to figure out a way to align youre unique voice with those trends in some way or your chances of success are severely limited. These are the facts. The people who are constantly saying its impossible to make it are wrong and are speaking very much from experience. Its how you go about it.
Additionally, markets are fragmenting more now than ever before with the internet and the global world. If your product is really really good you WILL spread online and through word of mouth quickly. And to a much wider audience than was ever previously possible. Quality (that is trend-relevant and original) has a way of rising to the top again and again. Its not an accident.
 
Huh! Slightly off the topic - But JuSum touched one of my raw nerves there!
I started my career in music in the late '60's, with for then very 'avant-garde' kinda stuff, somewhat underground, but very successful. After a couple of years I changed towards more fusion jazz, then to heavier material etc etc., Now I do stuff ranging from hardcore industrial to hiphop(ish). Every step I took, I got slated by the people who liked the stuff I did previously...
The point - people don't make it easy for you to change. I soon cottoned on to it very quickly and started doing things under a whole load of different names, which solved a lot of hassle. The second point – as JuSum also stated – if you persistently do things that can stand on their own feet, that represent quality, you will have commercial success, with a bit of luck
 
I think you should become a Republican, go to Washington, and join the Bush Administration.
 
He can't possibly do that, he can type and has been to school, so he's completely overqualified for that job
 
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