Reamping

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I am using a Pod pro, a Delta 66 and Sonar to do Reamping. I record the original dry sound which sounds ok but when I run that sound back into the Pod Pro the signal to noise level is horrible. If I record direct from the Pod the noise is not bad at all, even if I don’t use the noise gate. I have a feeling the answer might be to buy Monster Cables but I hate to do that if I don’t have to. Has anyone else had this problem? What are you doing to avoid it?
 
Over the weekend I have tried a different power circuit, different guitars, different cables, I’ve tried different inputs on the sound card, different settings for input level, and different volumes on the pod (digital out, main volume and channel volume). All to no avail, anyone have any thoughts?
 
well, the settings should probably be -10 on the output of the delta 66, and "line" or -10 on the input of the pod. is that what you are doing.

by the way, it is most likely not your cables (if they work for other things, they should work for this task).

do you have a mixer? that would help quite a bit.

reamping is always a bit of a chore, cause amps (in your case a pod, why not an amp?) and recording devices dont match up well level wise. which is why you can buy little reamp boxes which will match them up for you. they are very expensive... you probably dont want to lay out the cash for them.

the poor man's trick is to use a DI box in reverse. you make sure the output of your recorder is balanced +4, and send that to the output of a DI box. then connect the input of the DI box to the input of the amp (pod for you).

this works pretty well in lots of situations, but for some reason, it fails occasionally...

you can pick up a DI box for less than $30. or you can make one, plans on http://www.jensen-transformers.com/.
 
I do have a mixer. Should I come out of the POD into the mixer and then out a send into the computer?

If I am remembering correctly, when I recorded at -10 the signal was too hot and it would drive the Pod harder then I did originally with just the guitar. I will have to verify that I had both the INS and the outs set to -10. I have been playing with the settings trying to figure out where to set them. Is -10 correct for everything?
 
a guitar is somewhere below line level (-10) at the so called "instrument" level. this is the level the input of your POD is probably expecting. i imagine you would have to change it to get a line level into it. although it may do it automatically. i dunno. check the manual.

so you should be playing your guitar into the pod, using it as a DI- boosting the guitar to line level-, going into the delta 66 (set to line level), and recording a nice slightly below 0 signal on the computer.

then you should replay the track, send it out of the delta at line level, then into the POD (which will have to be reset for taking a line level as opposed to an instrument level). then out of the pod at line and back into the delta.

there is probably going to be a little delay here, so you will want to nudge it forward a bit, but it might not be a problem. you can check by playing the original and the reamped version at the same time. you should hear some phase issues... nudge it till there arent any...

make sense. should work...
 
The Pod is switch-able for line or instrument level. Therefore, If I am using line level should the Delta be set to -10 (Instrument level) or 0 (line level)?

Also would I be better off using the mixer to record the unprocess guitar instead of the Pod?
 
just to get it straight (i havent been too clear on this):

line level actually refers to a bunch of different things, but it is most common for pro line devices to be set at -10 dbv and +4 dbu, which if you notice use different units. cant say i know why, or what the difference is. but in practical terms +4 is louder. just not 14db louder.

-10 is used on most unbalanced gear, and +4 is used on most balanced gear. 0 is sometimes (m-audio uses this) called "consumer" because it is used a bit on non-pro devices.

anyway, all these line levels are pretty close all things considered. i have been calling -10 "line" cause i was assuming you were dealing with the unbalanced world.

instrument levels are quite a bit lower. the delta doesnt have proper inputs for instrument level. dont your guitar cable right into the delta. send it thru the pod first (input set to instrument, output set to line).
 
What about the guitar through the mixer into the Delta? Could that be a cleaner signal then through the Pod?
 
Actually, I use A Pod becuase I could never make up my mind on one single amp nor could I afford several.
 
thats cool. now you can start slowly buying the real thing, one amp at a time. no pressure.

anyway, have you tried reamping again?
 
Only partially, the noise is still there. I have not fully tested it to see just how bad. I am wondering if I was using enough gain/distortion that I should expect the extra noise.
 
well, there is always going to be some degree of noise [the more distortion you apply the more there will be as well]. you just have to get it down...


another thing you might want to consider is abandoning the cause and just picking a POD sound ahead of time and sticking with it.
 
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