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i am interested in buying an inexpensive starter mic that can handle voice and acoustic guitar. Can anyone name a brand or model number? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lee
 
First answer us this--what are you planning to plug it into?

A lot of people don't initially realize they will need some sort of mic pre-amp to plug into. And the mic input on your Sound Blaster isn't going to make you very happy, I'm afraid, so best to forget it altogether. Should I hazard a guess and assume you're planning to record with your computer (like most of us here do)?
 
not computer recording....

i don't plan on starting on computer recording. I am buying a simple 4-track recorder and need a mic to handle both voice and acoustic guitar....(on a budget). Thanks for you speedy reply. And can you further explain what i will need.
I have been doing extensive research and discovered that i need (for beginners) a 4-track recorder, mic, headphones.
 
The Shure SM57 is a great "workhorse" mic. You can pick one up for about $80 just about anywhere. Always a sound investment....you'll use it forever no matter how far your recording interests take you. Great live too.
 
1) What's your mic budget? $5, $50, $100? Total budget?

2) Unless you need a 4-track for portability, you'd be better off in the short and long run to record with your computer. If you use your current sound card initially you can get a mic such as the Studio Projects B1 for $80, a pre like the Audio Buddy for $80, software for free for demo versions, or N-Track for $40. So for about $200 you're in business. You can upgrade to a better soundcard later, but whatever came with the computer is probably adequate until you figure out what you're doing.

3) If you use a 4-track, without phantom power you're going to be limited pretty much to dynamic mics like the Shure SM57 or SM58 which run $80 -$100 or so I think. You can find cheaper mics but in general the lower the price the lower the quality.

Hope this helps - you'll get lots more advice about this from people that know a hell of a lot more than I do.
 
Yes, everybody needs an SM57. It sounds great on some things, like snare drums and electric guitars, and it usually sounds at least OK on everything else. Many 4-track recorders have mic preamps built in, so you wouldn't have to get a separate one. Just make sure this is the case before you make your selection. You'll know if it has mic preamps if there are XLR inputs--these are a circular jack with three holes for pins.

Now, I'm going to hazard another suggestion, which may not be the best for a beginner, but here goes: assuming your 4-track can provide phantom power, the Behringer ECM8000 might be good to have. It only costs $35 and should be a little better than the SM57 on acoustic guitar (though not necessarily on voice). On the down side, since this is a condensor mic, you NEED phantom power, which is a power source supplied by the mic preamp. The 4-track may not have this. You don't need phantom power for a dynamic mic like the SM57. Also, you'll pick up a lot of unwanted noise if you don't have a quiet, nice-sounding room.

So the SM57 is probably the best place for anybody to start.
 
For the love of all that is holy please do not get a casette 4track. They should be gathered up and burned in a huge bonfire. My voice mail sounds better than most casette units.

Spend your dough on a small mixer and use your computer.
 
TexRoadkill said:
For the love of all that is holy please do not get a casette 4track. They should be gathered up and burned in a huge bonfire. My voice mail sounds better than most casette units.

:D LMAO:p
 
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