Public Mix Contest #12!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ecktronic said:
To get a louder kick you need to bring the volume up on the kik. Simple. To stop peaking just place a limiter on the kick track. Tha snare is difficult to get a decent sound from. Cant really help there.

Eck
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If I raise the volume and then put a limiter, would it essentially bring all of the kick to the same volume at the threshold above which it will clip? (assuming I adjust the limiter to limit at the volume past which it will clip).

The snare - I was getting many different sounds from it by tweaking. I just don't know which sounds better. After a while I start imagining playing with the band and I'm jamming with the tune. It doesn't matter at this point what anything sounds like 'coz I'm imagining the music being played live and sort of playing along in my mind. It's pretty amazing except that I still don't have a good snare sound. :)

OK, I'll give these two suggestions a try this weekend. :)

Ecktronic & JazzMang, thanks guys. :)
 
When you place your limiter on the kick track (-0.1dB threshold, attack roughly 1-2ms)
What it does is when you bring up the level of the kick track it cuts anything that hits -0.1dB so what you are doing by increasing the volume of the track is actually bringing up the voilume of the track.
Think about picturing the wave. The lower to -192dB you go the wider the wave of the kik. so the limiter is cutting the thiner top part of the wave off and making it wider closer to -0.1dB so therefore louder. (thats the way i think of it although don quote me on it!)
Hope this helps.
So yes it does make the kik louder.
Also try making a clone of the kik track and then compressing it like (attack 5ms, release 60ms, ratio 3dB and bring the threshold down so it is compressing the kik loads, then use this as a bakc up for your original kik track. Bring it in under the original kik and it will make the kik more solid

Eck
 
xfinsterx said:
Its fine.
You are being judged on fidelity.
Not on producer preference.

-Finster
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I would make sure we understand your preference. Like if you hate a growl, so you leave it in really low, don't make us wonder if you meant that or you didn't know how to set an appropriate level. Really more of an issue with the verses rather than the odd growl here or there.
 
mshilarious said:
I would make sure we understand your preference. Like if you hate a growl, so you leave it in really low, don't make us wonder if you meant that or you didn't know how to set an appropriate level. Really more of an issue with the verses rather than the odd growl here or there.
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So if I submit a really shitty sounding mix and state that it is my preference to have over compressed drums, a booming bass,and muddy vocals that I might score Massenburg across the board? :D
 
OK; this may be the one!

v4.0 (oops, now 4.5) is up... It hasn't passed the "alternate speakers" test, but this is MUCH better then before. I really wanted to focus on getting some fidelity out of the drums and bass; my others were all too muddy and too close to clipping.

I like the growl, but I didn't use the "f-bomb" phrase at the end; my mix is radio-friendly. I added an intro and an outro...

I'm a jazz guy, so this mix is probably a little "glossier" than the genre is used to, but it's where my ear said to put it. (With advice from my headbanger wife, that is, but the guitars are probably a little lower than a rocker might mix it...).

I'm gonna sleep on it, and lock it down as final tomorrow if I still like it.

LlarionMix™ v4.(5) (192kb MP3)

Whattya think?
 
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hey, i am in no way as good or experienced as the people entering this but as i have never had a chance to mix a full band i thought i would give it a go (im using a sanyo micro hifi as monitors so dont hate me if its bad)
so heres my attempt:
Circle

please give feedback, but try not to be rude about it :)
 
Vanbas2:
i like how the drums sound different ast the start, and then in the main part of thew song the snare is pretty cool.
i dont love the vocals after "so far away" 1min 25 secs, i think they sound out of time
overall i think it is really good, and has a more radio friendly sound than other songs in this style :)
 
guitarboi has no bass. llarion i like your edits. pretty good mix but its getting muddier than when you first started. vanbas has something in the upper range that hurts my ears right away. the levels sound pretty good. but im just some dude so what do i know?!?!

randy staubb
(not really)
 
vanbas2 said:
ver.6 :)

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1358

comments are welcome

thanks

vanbas
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Your mix sounds very mid rangey and this makes it sound thin.
Might be your monitors that are making it so midrangey. What are you monitoring through?
The lo toms at the start of the song are really boomy. You should place a hi pass over them and work on the EQ more to tame the lo end boominess.

Eck
 
Hey man...anyone know when the results will be announced. I'm losing perspective on this tune, I can only imagine you guys who have kept re-mixing. Hats off to anyone who attempted this.
 
Llarion said:
v4.0 (oops, now 4.5) is up... It hasn't passed the "alternate speakers" test, but this is MUCH better then before. I really wanted to focus on getting some fidelity out of the drums and bass; my others were all too muddy and too close to clipping.

I like the growl, but I didn't use the "f-bomb" phrase at the end; my mix is radio-friendly. I added an intro and an outro...

I'm a jazz guy, so this mix is probably a little "glossier" than the genre is used to, but it's where my ear said to put it. (With advice from my headbanger wife, that is, but the guitars are probably a little lower than a rocker might mix it...).

I'm gonna sleep on it, and lock it down as final tomorrow if I still like it.

LlarionMix™ v4.(5) (192kb MP3)

Whattya think?
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The overheads are sounding a bit loud. I'd like the bass to have more definition, too. I really, really don't dig that phaser/flanger on the screaming. But.. I'm not a judge.

I think the vocals need to be widened quite a bit, too. They could really use some pitch correction.

The snare is a bit quiet, too.

Everything else is decent.
 
geet73 said:
No comments?
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Mix sounds good!

The snare has a nasty habit of having an uncontrolled attack and sticking out too much (1:06, 2:23) and sounding like its clipping.

Got a bad clip at 1:43 as well.

I would also maybe bring up the ride cymbal a little bit for clarity and atmosphere.

Other than these minor fixes, I like it!

Good job.
 
JazzMang said:
Mix sounds good!

The snare has a nasty habit of having an uncontrolled attack and sticking out too much (1:06, 2:23) and sounding like its clipping.

Got a bad clip at 1:43 as well.

I would also maybe bring up the ride cymbal a little bit for clarity and atmosphere.

Other than these minor fixes, I like it!

Good job.
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Yea. The snare is a bit of a bitch. I'll go back and clean those up when I get a chance. I don't know why I didn't notice that random clip in the middle, either.

Thanks.

In your mix. The guitars sound kinda muffled. I think you've got a bit too much bottom snare mic in there, too. I can hear the kick hits on it. Heh. Everything sounds kinda muffled, actually. Try to get some more clarity in there. Everything just mushes together.
 
geet73 said:
I think the vocals need to be widened quite a bit, too. They could really use some pitch correction.
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Man, that's odd, because they got Cher-like levels of Autotune applied to them already! :) You think I should have taken it further?

Thanks though! I wrestled with everything you touched on, and had to make decisions. Not much more I could do on the bass, the acquisition is painfully distorted. I pulled the overheads up because I love the urgency of that chica boy cymbal, and I think it needs more emphasis than I've been hearing. That was very much on purpose...

I love my gimmicky flange, man, come on!!! :D :D It was so sinister, I just hadda do it.. :)
 
You mean before you got them? Or you put Autotune on them?

You might've missed a few spots. Heh.

But if all that was intentional, keep it that way. We all just have differing opinions.
 
geet73 said:
You mean before you got them? Or you put Autotune on them?

You might've missed a few spots. Heh.

But if all that was intentional, keep it that way. We all just have differing opinions.
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I laid Autotune on every part because I heard the pitchiness too; but you can only squeeze so much out of Autotune before it gets blocky sounding... That was part of the reason I chose the flange and doubling effects; it masks some of the autotune-ness...
 
Thanks for your comments guys! I'll try to fix things next time.

ecktronic:my monitors are genelec 1029 +sub1091 but i am afraid that
the real problem are my ears after 15 years on the stage :D

vanbas
 
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