Public Mix Contest #12!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ecktronic said:
Bump. :rolleyes:
Any takers on reveiwing my third mix please?

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1141
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Sorry eck, just found this. Nice mix. A few of the drum sounds seem a bit loud/overbearing. I personally like this, but it may not fit the context of this song. Love the guitar tone. Not too many issues that I can make out, but I'm easy. :D The judges probably can pick this stuff up better. Nice job though.
Ed
 
SteveLetwin said:
Here's my first pass.

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Sounds a bit muffled. I think someone else said it needed to be brightened, and I agree. Tons of bass, and you got the vocals sounding pretty good, but it lacks some sounds. See if you can broaden the whole thing.
Ed
 
Markaholic said:
Man at 64kbs i cant tell whats going on!
I'd try atleast a 128 sample..if nowhere radio wont allow it..id suggest nl5's service!
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I'll see what i can do after i get home from the gig. I don't know why I uploaded a 46kbps file.
 
JazzMang said:
Anyone got a sec (and some good monitors)?
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Listening now...Not bad. seems to have quite a bit of sounds in the frequencies of the snare. Makes the vocals a bit hard to make out. Not horrible, just a bit cluttered, and that makes it sound a bit thin. Keep the vocals there, and maybe drop some of the other sounds a bit, or move them about to give the vocal more space???
Ed
 
Do we have a deadline set for this yet? I've got my Yorkies coming in about a week (Oct 6), so hopefully I'll have time to check my mixe on those before the end. :cool: These Aiwa speakers just suck for mixing! LOL

-tkr
 
Sorry...

For personal reasons and moving some equipment around and other schtuff I will have to beg off the competition. Please just delete my previous contributions.

Thanks!
 
maestro_dmc said:
Sounds good, could use a little more cowbell. :D ;)
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I agree with this 100% folks.

The cow bell has been soooo understated up to this point.

Ill be needing more.
 
xfinsterx said:
I agree with this 100% folks.

The cow bell has been soooo understated up to this point.

Ill be needing more.
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Well.....why didn't you just say so......I can put the cowbell up front, and hide the rest of my mistakes with it.... :D
 
Im in a state of near despair with this. I've spent six hours on it, and I can't even get an acceptable sounding drum mix. Maybe it's that I hate the cymbals. Or that the bass parts have no fundamental definition beyond the sharp articulation of the pick used.

Or, more accurately, this music is SO far removed from what I like, listen to, and even remotely understand, that I think I may be incapable of doing it justice. I have no idea if what I'm doing sounds good for the genre; it might be brilliant but I'd never know. It's difficult to sit through and work on though, because other than the obvious technical brilliance of the players, I can find nothing pleasing or redeeming to listen to in this song. After about a hour of reps, I am nervous and edgy because of the assault on my senses. And I haven't even loaded the lead vox yet.

I guess this says a lot about engineering and mixing; it's not a universal skill; it's genre-specific. Someone might be a great pop/rock engineer, but they'd be lost doing Jazz, or classical. Or vice-versa.

Anyway, I have a great deal of respect for anyone that can do this particular genre justice, because it's just kicking my ass. And I'm pretty good at this stuff, usually.

Any thoughts/insights? Is a Smooth Jazz guy just flat in over his head trying to do punk/speed metal/whatever this is?
 
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Llarion said:
Any thoughts/insights? Is a Smooth Jazz guy just flat in over his head trying to do punk/speed metal/whatever this is?
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Dude, chill. This ain't a Woody Allen movie. Post what you've got, I promise I'll be nice :D


On that subject, I haven't been trying to be particularly nice in my reviews thus far because I am trying to get everybody to score as high as possible. So my goal is mean but constructive. I don't judge that harshly though :)
 
You'll probably find that in this genre, an acceptable mix uses a LOT more compression than you're used to, and on instruments you wouldn't normally put any on, and in techniques (serial and parallel compression) you wouldn't normally consider for jazz.
Same goes for EQ. Someone mentioned these tracks shouldn't need much EQ but I disagree. Some of them need subtle changes (a couple db here and there on the drum overheads, for example), but some have such a DRASTIC tone problem (bass, kick, snare) that up to 10db boosts/cuts are needed to get anything useful out of them.
IMHO in this genre you just have to do what sounds good and not think about that it may be "wrong" to do it. If crazy EQ makes it sound better, then you just do it and forget about any rules.
Also, pan wide. Overheads and guitars at full L and R.
Compress the crap out of those cymbals.

And don't be afraid to completely trash some of the tracks. I got rid of half the extraneous bass and drum tracks because they didn't add a damn thing.

Replacing lacking tracks with different tones is also common practice. I "reamped" most of the guitar and bass tracks and used my own drum samples.
 
Toki987 said:
I replaced that 64 kbps file with a 192kbps. I guess I was in hurry and didn't notice that my encoder was on 64.

Wouldn`t come close to what you guys are capable of but I thought it might be a great learning experience. I would appreciate anybody droppin tips that might help with what they hear.

Ken
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First I accidentally downloaded "Hiway Robbery" and I was think now THIS is an interesting take :o :o :o

OK, now that I'm no longer stupid:

Alright, unique take. I like the intro. The first bass note is out of control. In fact the bass throughout is problematic--it's causing stray peaks everywhere. There are troubles with backing-lead vocal balance during the verses.

These guitars seem immune to mixing--every version I hear I like 'em. Go figure.
 
snow lizard said:
OK, here's a first attempt.

Comments are more than welcome, although there's a few more things I have in mind for this thing yet.
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Need to get the drums under control--all of 'em!
 
bleyrad said:
You'll probably find that in this genre, an acceptable mix uses a LOT more compression than you're used to, and on instruments you wouldn't normally put any on, and in techniques (serial and parallel compression) you wouldn't normally consider for jazz.
Same goes for EQ. Someone mentioned these tracks shouldn't need much EQ but I disagree. Some of them need subtle changes (a couple db here and there on the drum overheads, for example), but some have such a DRASTIC tone problem (bass, kick, snare) that up to 10db boosts/cuts are needed to get anything useful out of them.
IMHO in this genre you just have to do what sounds good and not think about that it may be "wrong" to do it. If crazy EQ makes it sound better, then you just do it and forget about any rules.
Also, pan wide. Overheads and guitars at full L and R.
Compress the crap out of those cymbals.

And don't be afraid to completely trash some of the tracks. I got rid of half the extraneous bass and drum tracks because they didn't add a damn thing.

Replacing lacking tracks with different tones is also common practice. I "reamped" most of the guitar and bass tracks and used my own drum samples.
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Thank you SO much. I have aleady gone down a lot of this road. Good to know that I'm not out of my mind. I've already been squashing the crap out of it, and using a brickwall limiter on some; I realized that I need a "wall of sound", which is the antithesis of the kind of transparency I mich shoot for in a jazz mix... I ditched a lot of trax already, but I'm not going to replace anything with my own samples.. I'll keep plugging. My wife is a headbanger, so she's going to help me with interpretation...
 
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