Public Mix Contest #12!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Farview]

Just out of curiousity, how many of you guys are using sound replacement on the drums? There are at least 2 mixes that I've checked out that sound like there are some mis-triggered kicks? Maybe it was like that before but I don't recall catching it in Finster's original mix.

I replaced the drums on my mixes

 

[Wireneck]

I guess the kick sticks out a little more in some of your mixes than in the original. I caught a few drum flubs that were slightly hidden in Finsters mix. I first thought it might have been a bad triggering/replacement job but I suppose not.

 

[Farview]

It was a bad replacement job. I was just letting Drumagog run, I wasn't paying too much attention to it. One of the reasons I begged off is because it would just take too much time to tidy up the mix. Between getting the drums to trigger and auto tuning those vocals, I just don't have the time.

 

[Farview]

Anyway... I actually tweaked my mix a bit (I know, I said I wouldn't, but fresh ears showed me a couple things), and it won't let me edit my old post, so HERE is in fact what should be my real final mix:

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1173

My main comment about this mix is that it is lob-sided. All the high guitar parts are panned to the right which makes the mix lean that way.

The guitars are a little thin sounding.

The mix has absolutely no dynamics.

That key part in the stops at the end is just too weak being panned to one side and as quiet as it is.

I like the way you rearranged the song and some of your effects ideas.

 

[Dogman]

Okay, here is my new one. I would be glad if someone could confirm if the overall bass is in order.

I think I finally got those vox to sit at least somewhat...

The link to the mp3

I'm starting to be somewhat statisfied to this mix.. Now I only have to "master" it. There are some annoying mid freq. bumps I would like to EQ out. Also maby just a little limiting/compressing and I think it should be quite done..

I really like this mix. Very full. Seems to have all the dynamics in it. I like the way the vocals sit. Nice job.
Ed

 

[Farview]

Anyone else?

Thanks, Dogman. The click really makes the kick stand out and it throws me off. I might have to cut it down a bit. Heh.

I went with a bit longer/more of a 'verb on the vox this time. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

My only comments on this are:

The kick is a little buried.

The guitars are a little thin. (that might just be personal preference)

 

[xfinsterx]

Retribution never felt so slight. maybe???

Retribution never felt so sweet.

 

[detuned6]

Detund6's 3rd mix

All right, I made some changes, can someone let me no if I am on the right path.

Thanks \m/

 

[Markaholic]

Detund6's 3rd mix

All right, I made some changes, can someone let me no if I am on the right path.

Thanks \m/

Starting to sound good detuned..i'd listen to fin's 1st post and see how the vocals sound...its sounds like your using the background vox's as leads!

 

[ecktronic]

Ooh you picked up some nice things in the bass guitar. I like bass Nice stereo spread. There's some weird panning in the guitars near the end; doesn't work for you. The extended scream is a nice touch, although a bit too obviously looped. It needs to fade just a little.

After the intro, I'd make the snare sound less martial, and bring down the kick during the verses.

Overall this is a very good mix.

Thanks for the reveiw.
Not sure what to do with the end yet.
Still got a bit of work to do.

I like the guitar panning near the end . Suppose its controversial. Trying to do something different without being too over the top.

Cheers.

Eck

 

[ecktronic]

Obviously what anyone does with the mix is their personal preference.
I approached this song from the angle of making it sound like it wouldn't be out of place on a modern commercially-released album.
In other words, to make it sound similar to a good-sounding major release.
Lots of compression is essential to this sound. And of course not just "lots," but lots of well-dialed-in and suiting compression.

If you'd rather approach it from the angle of shooting for an indie artistic release, then feel free. This was my angle on it. I tend to think that this particular genre actually does benefit from lots of processing. I know this type of thinking goes against the grain of this forum, and heavy processing is almost entirely frowned upon here AS A RULE (I think this hurts just as much as my generalizations) but I also know a) what sells and b) what sounds good to me. In this particular case, they were the same approach.
I am not really a fan of most of these mixes. They're interesting and people are obviously learning well in the process. But, most of them are very sparse, small, light, and narrow IMHO. This is because people are relying very closely on the sound of the original tracks to carry the song. Your tracking was methodical and clean, so I applaud that, but in many cases quite lacking in tone. This isn't really a bad thing for this project, because it makes the PMC more of an interesting challenge than if all the tone was right there to begin with. If this was my tracking project and I was shooting for a non-demo release of any sort, I would either seriously consider retracking some of the stuff or force myself to accept really heavy processing.
This isn't meant as an offense in any way. I'm sure you are a great engineer. Just that it seems like some of these tracks were setup in too much of a hurry, without any time spent on critical listening to the tone.

What a load of shite!!!
Eck

 

[Noisybob]

Man, this is such a cool song. Wish I had the equipement to mix it on, but don't, so just wanted to say, I've been enjoying some of the version you have come up with. I don't know enough about how to mix to help anyone, but some of these examples have been very good.
Robert

 

[ecktronic]

OK, here's a first attempt.

Comments are more than welcome, although there's a few more things I have in mind for this thing yet.


http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1157


sl

Sounds very muddy. Doesnt jump out at me. Mixes should catch your attention and hold your attention for most of the song. Especially since its such a good tune. Dont mean to patronise. Vocal "clone" pan is too much. and too loud.

Thank you to all that reviewed my #3 mix.

Eck

 

[xfinsterx]

Okay, here is my new one. I would be glad if someone could confirm if the overall bass is in order.

I think I finally got those vox to sit at least somewhat...

The link to the mp3

I'm starting to be somewhat statisfied to this mix.. Now I only have to "master" it. There are some annoying mid freq. bumps I would like to EQ out. Also maby just a little limiting/compressing and I think it should be quite done..

Bam!
Someone finally got the vocals correct.
Nice balance too.
Youre the man Kainz.
Me and my girl say youve got the best one thus far.
However....it could always be better...no?

-Finster

 

[xfinsterx]

Bump.
Any takers on reveiwing my third mix please?

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1141

A bit too much hh in the intro.

Love the explosive dynamics for the heavy part before the vox start.

You need to auto tune the vocals, but i do love the balance you have there.

Love the backwards thingy too.

Too high endy overall.

Overall nice, but needs minor tweaks.

-Finster

 

[ecktronic]

A bit too much hh in the intro.

Love the explosive dynamics for the heavy part before the vox start.

You need to auto tune the vocals, but i do love the balance you have there.

Love the backwards thingy too.

Too high endy overall.

Overall nice, but needs minor tweaks.

-Finster

Im known for too much high end. Im a high end junky!
The backwards thing? Are you meaning the bit at 2:50?
Wasnt really wanting to mess with the track really, just trying to get a solid mix although I am going to add some extras to bring even more life to the mix.
Thank you verymuch for the review Chris.
Gonna do a new mix tommorow.

Eck

 

[xfinsterx]

Thank you verymuch for the review Chris.

Eck

No sweat boss.

And about being a high end junky.
In my room at geomana i tend to not know where the fuck the bass is, but i can easily judge the high end for the most part.
Ill usually go over to Falcon to see where my lows are, that room is idiot proof!

 

[ecktronic]

Never tried auto tuning before.
There are small parts that are a tiny bit out, but do they really need changed?
As i said "a baw hair out!"

Any certain spots that the vox tuning stick out at?
Cheers Chris.

Eck

 

[xfinsterx]

Never tried auto tuning before.
There are small parts that are a tiny bit out, but do they really need changed?

Yes, go through with a guitar and figure out all the notes that im siging on each harmony and auto tune them all!
Im not kidding.

Any certain spots that the vox tuning stick out at?
Eck

All of them!
Just use a soft correction setting.

 

[ecktronic]

No sweat boss.

And about being a high end junky.
In my room at geomana i tend to not know where the fuck the bass is, but i can easily judge the high end for the most part.
Ill usually go over to Falcon to see where my lows are, that room is idiot proof!

Im just getting used to my monitor source. (Sennheiser HD200s).
Its all about knowing the monitors you use, and knowing the flaws in monitors is a big part in getting a balanced tone. Its taken me 2 years to get to know my headphones. and im still learning.

I know people say headphones shouldnt be used for mixing but I found using Mackie HR824s arent as accurate although they do show the (harsh) high end more which I lack in my phones just now.

Eck