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does anyone knows if there is any other interface except digi001 that will work with Protools and has at least 10 chanels of simul. input and output?
Or,if digi001 can be expanded to 16 chanels?

Is there any better solution for studio(live instruments) than digi001 and protools??

Please help me!!

Thanks!
 
there are several different solutions than ProTools. Protools is a great system, but it is not the only great system on the market. DO a search on this forulm on other soundcards. I believe one of the delta series, or a great digital mixer with Logic has teh same capabilities than Protools.
 
Pro Tools is basically only used becaus eit is a (large) studio standard. there are many programs out there that are equal and even superior to Pro Tools, for un-ridiculous prices.
 
I heard the driver issues for the Q10 are a nightmare.

Just an FYI.

What do I know, I use PT, right?
 
Guys,thank you very much for quick reply.

It seems that I have to make decission about wich system I'm going to use.

That Q10 seems nice.Does anyone has some experiences with it??
What kind of program is Pro Audio 9 that comes with Q10?
 
what system will you be using the Q10 with? if you search the boards, you will see countless posts by people raging about how bad tha q10's drivers are...
 
lucid, I am very interested in these pc based systems that you are referring to that are "equal or even superior to ProTools".

Last I checked, real studios still use PT because it offers the best computer based recording system on the market! Period!!! Do you think that a studio that needs to do high end work would spend the $30,000 on a PT system when a $2000 PC system would be "equal or even superous to ProTools"? Dude, I will bust your chops here as gently as I know how. That is totally, 100% misinformed BS!!! Only somebody who hasn't ever worked on a PT system could possibly try to compare PT with PC bases software with little dinky 10 I/O soundcards and what not.

Currently, there are only a FEW platforms that are even remotely LIKE ProTools! Sadie, Sonic Solutions, and SoundScape. I suppose you could throw some of the more minor systems in like Paris, and Orban, but they are minor players in the "stand alone Harddisk/Computer" system. All have their OWN DSP and use hard drives that are on their box. The computer they interface with is simply that, the interface. The computer itself does nothing but command the proprietary box what to do. VERY different than PC systems that people around here are using. I can assure you that the QUALITY of the DSP in PC software currently isn't anything CLOSE to what the proprietary stand alone systems are!!! PT's DSP is at like 48 bit internal, and it can do that over as many tracks as you have hardware to run! No having to upgrade RAM, then the CPU, then trying all sorts of silly software/hardware tweeks! PT just plain WORKS! Yeah, you still need to get the computer interfacing with it right, but that is just the GUI, the actual ability for high track counts, open software capatibility, and quality of DSP in a PT system blows away just about anything out there. Yup, I think Sonic Solutions has a bit of an edge in sound quality, but SS is VERY expensive compared to ProTools. I have heard some work done on a Sadie system, and it is indeed right in there with PT!

If you are serious about recording, and need LOT'S of DSP and TRACKS and a system that is stable, you wind up paying BIG BUCKS for one of the systems above. I can assure you though that they are worth every penny when compared to some kind of cheesy PC solution!

As far as other soundcards that will interface with ProTools Le or PT Free, I am not too sure what they currently support. If you have a legal version, you should try their tech support for what might be a good card to use.

Good luck.

Ed
 
Ed,

Once again...a dead on balls accurate post.

Ok, the Digi001 WILL do 18 simul inputs, but you need to use lightpipe to do this. Otherwise you are limited to 8 analog and 2 via S/PDIF.

No other hardware works with PTle...only digi. If you use PTfree, you can use other soundcards but are limited to two tracks at a time and PTfree is buggy as hell because it tries to be something for everyone. Not good. That is where so many PC based DAWS fail, imho.

And also the beauty of the 001 setup. The card and software work together and you know they WILL work together. Yes, you can say this is limiting your options, but you know it will work. Never had driver issues or latency issues or stuttering issues.

Well, that is my view.

Good luck.
 
lucid said:
what system will you be using the Q10 with? if you search the boards, you will see countless posts by people raging about how bad tha q10's drivers are...
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Right now I'm using Tascam US-428 with laptop for some personal recordings.But I want to get into some serious recording.
That's why I want to see wich system is the best for audio recording so I can record drums,guitars etc. , but I don't want to spend $10k for PT because I dont have that kind of money.

I'm ready to get the system wich is necessary for the right hardware(card,interface) and software if that alowes me good quality and at least 10 channels of sim. I/O.
So,let's say I'm starting from the biggining.What to do to build up a project studio??

It seems if you start with something(Digi001,Q10,MOTU),there is no way out unless you sell it for the half of the price and then start with something new.


Amala
 
Clark_Griswold said:
Ed,

Once again...a dead on balls accurate post.

Ok, the Digi001 WILL do 18 simul inputs, but you need to use lightpipe to do this.


How much would that be?



Thanks!
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Sonic Misfit said:
You can add 8 channels using an ADAT bridge.
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Does that mean that I need ADAT too??
How does that work?

Sorry I'm new in this kind of stuff!!


Thank you!!
 
You can pick up a Digimax, the lite version is about 800 bucks. It has 8 preamps, it'll send those to the light pipe.
OR
You can pick up a used ADAT, maybe with broken transport stuff, tape heads etc. (you only need it for the inputs). But then you'll need preamps from a mixer or something
OR
You can pick up an Alesis AI-3 which will do the same thing as the adat. (8 balanced 1/4inch in, 8 balanced 1/4inch out, 8 light pipe in, 8 lightpipe out)

Any of these will give you 8 more seperate tracks. Plus the spdif gives you 10. I think you can use the light pipe and spidf at the same time, but don't quote me on that.
 
a sad pro tools story...

Well as much as I really hate to say this (especially behind his back) but I talked to someone who just recently bought Pro Tools. The thing was this person had $1200 to spend on stuff to sort of build a home studio in which he told me it was nothing more to just lay down some decent quality "ideas" on his computer. His cousin has a studio and he figured he get his ideas on the computer and finalize it and such at his cousin's studio. And in regards to what computer he was going to use, he said he was going to use his HP computer. He told me today that Pro Tools froze up on his HP and says now he figures he'll have to get a custom built computer made (personally I doubt that's the case but a custom built would probably be better). I sort of feel he went into this with little knowledge about what he was doing and now he's stuck. But what can I say, it's his money let him do what he wants with it. I personally feel he wasted it and should've bought mics, mixer, decent soundcard (maybe even a digital multitracker), etc but that's just my opinion.
 
perhaps he should check the digidesign compatibility guide before spending 800 dollars.
 
Ahhhhh yes, the compatibility documents....sounds like someone didn't do there homework.
 
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