Proper sentence structure...
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wilko
Marking my territory
Okay, so this is the new "nice place" to be...right?
Is it proper, grammatically speaking, to end a sentence with an adverb? It's been too long since I graduated, and my skills as a grammar nazi are dwindling...
I believe so, but you must never end a sentence, a preposition with....
MadAudio
Damned if I do
That reminds me of that old joke.....
Joe: So that's where I'll be at.
John: You know, you shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition.
Joe: So that's where I'll be at, bitch.
wilko
Marking my territory
That reminds me of that old joke.....
Joe: So that's where I'll be at.
John: You know, you shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition.
Joe: So that's where I'll be at, bitch.
Hehehehehehe!
Nicole_Rose
Great White North Girl
That reminds me of that old joke.....
Joe: So that's where I'll be at.
John: You know, you shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition.
Joe: So that's where I'll be at, bitch.
haha
32-20-Blues
New member
Yeah, you can end a sentence with an adverb. "He ran quickly."
Adverbs usually go at the end of a sentence, except in the case of adverbs of frequency, which usually go before the main verb. "He usually walks to the shop." Although some authorities will tell you that an adverb of frequency cannot go at the end of a sentence, I say bullshit. It's fine, as long as you use a comma before it. "He walks to the shop, usually."
Adverbs usually go at the end of a sentence, except in the case of adverbs of frequency, which usually go before the main verb. "He usually walks to the shop." Although some authorities will tell you that an adverb of frequency cannot go at the end of a sentence, I say bullshit. It's fine, as long as you use a comma before it. "He walks to the shop, usually."
wilko
Marking my territory
Ah but doesn't that potentially change the meaning, ( I could be wrong here!)?
1) He usually walks to the shop - he usually walks, not takes the bus...
2) He walks to the shop, ususally - what does he do? he goes to the shop as opposed to going anywhere else?
The context surrounding the sentence would probably lose any ambiguity though.
vadoom
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rayc
retroreprobate
Adverbs are Ok, not flash but ok as endings. They often lend themselves to a sense that there's was more to the sentence but it was truncated by an event rather sharply.
A very strong trend in Australia is to end a spoken sentence with so. Also to begin a written one with it.
Odd it is, thought only slightly so. You must understand that I don't mean so as in the so I just demonstrated. It's the upper inflected so that infers a "whatever" or "you know where this sentences would've gone if I'd been bothered to finish it." sort of so.
Do you find folk say could OF rather than could've?
With the USification of language there is also a major downhill slide toward saying A (long vowel) instead of a (short vowel as in the short vowel of u) in a sentence as in " I bought A sandwich for lunch." rather thah " I bought a sandwich for lunch."
Hey Wilko, I was stoked to read ...shops...I'm tired of the infiltration of store/market/laundryroom and much, much worse: bathroom instead of toilet.
A very strong trend in Australia is to end a spoken sentence with so. Also to begin a written one with it.
Odd it is, thought only slightly so. You must understand that I don't mean so as in the so I just demonstrated. It's the upper inflected so that infers a "whatever" or "you know where this sentences would've gone if I'd been bothered to finish it." sort of so.
Do you find folk say could OF rather than could've?
With the USification of language there is also a major downhill slide toward saying A (long vowel) instead of a (short vowel as in the short vowel of u) in a sentence as in " I bought A sandwich for lunch." rather thah " I bought a sandwich for lunch."
Hey Wilko, I was stoked to read ...shops...I'm tired of the infiltration of store/market/laundryroom and much, much worse: bathroom instead of toilet.
wilko
Marking my territory
LOL! I still have a (not A) lot of English in me!
One interesting thing I have found is that the proper English spelling of the word "organize" is actually with a "z" - "zed!". The correct American spelling is with the "s" as opposed to the "z".
The OED lists the "z" spelling first and says "also -ise.."
rayc
retroreprobate
The Americans wrote a Spelling Dictionary really early on & it was used religiously across schools for a long time - it wasn't correct spelling but became uniform & therefore correct in the US. Now that English, & US English at that, rules the computer & internet waves (by being the default spelling checking progs & having invented a lot of the jargon & jingoism as well) the US standard spelling is taking over - & some of it is bloody logical though much of it is bloody annoying.
I can't handle kids saying ZEE though. Just because it rhymes with A B C?
Dr Seuss wasn't too culturally sensitive, nor was he a cultural empirialist. It's funny that a sensitive, touchy, feely and aware program like Sesame St became, in effect, the harbinger of regional, non US pronounciation, spelling doom aye?
I can't handle kids saying ZEE though. Just because it rhymes with A B C?
Dr Seuss wasn't too culturally sensitive, nor was he a cultural empirialist. It's funny that a sensitive, touchy, feely and aware program like Sesame St became, in effect, the harbinger of regional, non US pronounciation, spelling doom aye?
famous beagle
Well-known member
I rarely hear people say a long "A" when speaking. The only time I can think of is when someone's trying to speak very deliberately to make a point or something, like "You .. are .. A .. B**ch!"
And sometimes a long "A" is sung because it seems to work better.
But I'd say that 95% of the time (at least) when someone speaks an "A," it sounds more like "uh."
The sentence you wrote above, I normally hear people pronounce, "I boughtta sandwich for lunch."
32-20-Blues
New member
Yeah, youre right! I just realised that.
Heh, well... whatever pronunciation impact Sesame St. has had, the 80's era shows were unforgettable for their wit and genuine creativity. In contrast there's the mind-numbing Teletubbies and Barney. God save us.
